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  1. #501
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    The Goblet
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    This change is such an awful idea if you actually are trying to catch up on gear, which is the stated point of this gear in the first place. It's great if you want glamour for a job you hardly play, though.

    Sometimes it's hard to believe SE has any idea of what they're doing. They're so tone deaf on the non-JP community that it's sad.
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  2. #502
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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Thyn'a Sindyrl
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Yeah, I rolled on the piece that dropped and got it, I got the card and orchestrion roll this week first run, I got lucky, so all I need is to get the minion, but I'm just waiting till next week to run again. It's really stupid that I can't feasibly roll for gear I actually would want.

    The 24 mans are some of my favorite content, but this left a bad taste in my mouth. This was an unneeded change.

    Not to mention if someone wants so go back and get old gear, they'll have to roll against everyone else too unless they're unsyncing it, which we shouldn't have to do.
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  3. #503
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    Ophie-Mio's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Yoongi Mio
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    With the current raid as is and the gear currently Greed Only, it doesn't give me much incentive to go on the jobs that are needed. Would rather just show up on my off-spec DPS class that I barely play and just...do the rounds rather than heal and make sure everyone is up and alive.

    Really bad idea the Greed Only considering that it makes you feel like your job in a raid is even more ungrateful.
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  4. #504
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    Rowde's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Willig Rowde
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    yeah this is the worst, did a run just now on healer in rabanastre and lost everything I would have been able to need before.
    (10)

  5. #505
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    Fyce's Avatar
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    Fyce Alvey
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    With the current raid as is and the gear currently Greed Only, it doesn't give me much incentive to go on the jobs that are needed. Would rather just show up on my off-spec DPS class that I barely play and just...do the rounds rather than heal and make sure everyone is up and alive.

    Really bad idea the Greed Only considering that it makes you feel like your job in a raid is even more ungrateful.
    In short terms: "I need incencives to be credit to team, otherwise I'll slack".
    I think I'm done with this thread. This community will never change.
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  6. #506
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    In short terms: "I need incencives to be credit to team, otherwise I'll slack".
    I think I'm done with this thread. This community will never change.
    Except they aren't even stating that they'll slack, I certainly don't on my off-classes, simply pointing out and rightly so that going as the needed classes simply isn't worth it anymore. Why would I bother with the headache that is healing a 24 man when I can just play my MCH instead? It's less stressful and now that the /one/ reason to queue as said healer has been taken away, I don't see why I should give myself an ulcer anymore. It's really getting old seeing consistent dismissal and outright derision of people's legitimate concerns because you don't share them. If you like the change, that's fine and good and I'm happy you're enjoying it. But bashing others for not having an identical mindset isn't helping anything.
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    Last edited by Enla; 05-23-2018 at 05:32 AM.

  7. #507
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    Vurtney's Avatar
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    Character
    Saryn Storm
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    As if i'm going to tank this, which i would normally do. I'll just queue as anything else and roll on the tank gear. This change was unneeded and i don't see players running this as a tank in the long run.

    I'm not going to bust my ass for an off chance for tank piece. We're all there for the gear and the old system worked just fine.
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    Last edited by Vurtney; 05-23-2018 at 05:43 AM.

  8. #508
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    Barachim's Avatar
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    Character
    Barachim Vandal
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    This just sucks for everyone. I rarely am in an Alliance with 3 other Dragoons. If I'm lucky, I'm the only one, at most there is a 2nd Dragoon. So as a DPS, I still usually have a 50/50 or 100% chance to get the gear I want. Now it's just free for all. Tanks, Healers, DPS, we all suffer from this.
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  9. #509
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    In short terms: "I need incencives to be credit to team, otherwise I'll slack".
    Setting aside how that's NOT what they said, like you had it pointed out to you -
    I already have a full time job, and they're paying me fairly well for it. If I wanted to waste my time keeping an entire alliance alive, the least they can do is give me the Need roll. Now repeat after me: this is a game. This is a pay to play game. I will not slack off on my job, nor will I queue as anything I don't feel comfortable running as. But if I do that, I do so out of the goodness of my heart, not because there is some requirement for me to do so. No one here owes anyone else squat, and if running content with people whose attitudes don't suit you, you're free to put together a PF and run it with like-minded souls. The rest of us want to actually feel awarded for our time and effort and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that so long as we're not rude or trolling.
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  10. #510
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    Jorge6029's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kiki Monsoon
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    This needs to get back to normal, Need > Greed > Pass is a good system. If someone wants to get gear for its alters, then they should play the job, they will also get some exp playing the job. The only reason I can imagine they decided to come with this, is to make it more difficult to get your gear set, so the content will be relevant for more time
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    Last edited by Jorge6029; 05-23-2018 at 07:08 AM.

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