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    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Masamune
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    Black Mage Lv 42
    Souleater still not working outside of grit.
    Blood price still not working outside of grit.
    Plunge range still too short.
    Dark passenger still useless singe target, they should have removed the mp cost on it this patch, I don't care it would be too similar to circle of scorn.

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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    Dark passenger still useless singe target, they should have removed the mp cost on it this patch, I don't care it would be too similar to circle of scorn.
    . . . AOE abilities shouldn't be useful on single target. That's the point of aoe abilities. Not everything has to be useful in every situation.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Valdegarde's Avatar
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    Hildegarde Rosea
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    . . . AOE abilities shouldn't be useful on single target. That's the point of aoe abilities. Not everything has to be useful in every situation.
    Let's change Circle of Scorn, Doton, Foul, Salted Earth, Shadow Flare etc. then because they're AoE abilities first and that's gotta be a dichotomy. This line of logic sounds extremely flawed. Dark Passenger was quite usable in Heavensward and there's no reason for it not to be right now. Dark Knight already has Salted Earth, Quietus, Abyssal Drain, and (ugh) Unleash for AoE, Dark Passenger being a STRICTLY AoE ability seems a waste of a cool animation and Dark Knight defining attack for the class.
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    Let's change Circle of Scorn, Doton, Foul, Salted Earth, Shadow Flare etc. then because they're AoE abilities first and that's gotta be a dichotomy. This line of logic sounds extremely flawed. Dark Passenger was quite usable in Heavensward and there's no reason for it not to be right now. Dark Knight already has Salted Earth, Quietus, Abyssal Drain, and (ugh) Unleash for AoE, Dark Passenger being a STRICTLY AoE ability seems a waste of a cool animation and Dark Knight defining attack for the class.
    Because Dark wouldn't have enough buttons to press as is.
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    . . . AOE abilities shouldn't be useful on single target. That's the point of aoe abilities. Not everything has to be useful in every situation.
    that's true. but Dark Passenger wasn't even that usefull in aoe situations. i only use it on low lvl for the aoe blind because it's at least something defense wise. and when i pull really really and my mana overflows and i have no idea where to spend it. so pretty niche.

    however, there are other aoe skills wich are usefull on singletarget too. i have no idea about all the classes, but assise, aero 3, circle of scorn, shadow flare, salted earth and hissatsu guren come to my mind. so it's nothing new. and we are used to use dark passenger in single target from 3.0. changing it and then it's still kinda meh for aoe situations? then better change it back to the 3.0 state.

    edit: man i am really a slow typer xD
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