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    Tex_Mex's Avatar
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    When I first read through the changes, I was pretty disappointed. There is some great QoL stuff in there, but the clunky DA spam is here to stay and our DPS was barely modified.

    After reading through the changes again, there are a couple of really great things though:

    1) Having increased enmity on plunge gives us an threat tool that is actually part of our normal DPS rotation outside of grit, so we should be able to generate a bit more aggro without needing a PS combo. Having to double weave DA on another oGCD it is just plain annoying, but at least it functions.
    2) The Shadow Wall change is what I consider to be the biggest buff out of this bunch. DRK was sorely lacking in the damage reduction CD department (especially pre-70) and this goes a long way towards helping that. The DM change should have been done a long time ago, and I still think that they should make damage types much easier to identify so that you know if DM will be useful or not.
    3) Sole Survivor just became a very minor DPS CD, which is at least a step up from hardly ever being used.
    4) Dark Passenger is now basically the same as just using DA on a single target (slightly less if you consider slashing debuff) and has enmity increase, so now it will be a normal part of my DPS rotation. More threat increases while outside of Grit are definitely welcome.

    So all in all, the core playstyle of the class is still clunky as hell, but at least more of it makes sense now. I wish our DPS would've seen a little bit more of a buff, considering how much harder DRK is to play optimally than the other 2 tanks, but it certainly could've been worse.

    This glass half full mentality is exhausting...... lol
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tex_Mex View Post
    I wish our DPS would've seen a little bit more of a buff, considering how much harder DRK is to play optimally than the other 2 tanks, but it certainly could've been worse.
    DRK's DPS was fine. It was on par with PLD. Is that so bad? And really, DRK is so much easier to play than PLD. You just don't cap out on blood or mana, and slam you CDs the moment they light up. Wow! PLD has to make sure to keep up their strict rotation.

    Peronsally, I'm disappointed they didn't increase Plunge's range to match onslaught.
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    Last edited by Hierro; 05-19-2018 at 12:22 AM.

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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    DRK's DPS was fine. It was on par with PLD. Is that so bad?
    usually the jobs with more utility do less dps and the jobs with less utility do more dps. so since DRK has the least utility of all tanks he should either do more dps than the others or get some better utility.

    as i see it PLD + WAR is still meta and DRK is still holding your party back - just not as much as before. i mean i don't really care, i don't even raid, i don't play the dps meta, i have tencaity melded... but the balancing feels still off.

    but i am glad for the QoL changes and defense buff, because that's what i really care for ^^ plunge range increase and having one more longer lasting, weaker defense cooldown - especially before lvl 70 - would still be nice.
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    Last edited by Tint; 05-19-2018 at 12:32 AM.

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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    DRK's DPS was fine. It was on par with PLD. Is that so bad? And really, DRK is so much easier to play than PLD. You just don't cap out on blood or mana, and slam you CDs the moment they light up. Wow! PLD has to make sure to keep up their strict rotation.

    Peronsally, I'm disappointed they didn't increase Plunge's range to match onslaught.
    since shake it off is miles better that TBN DRK should wiled the best dps of the 3 or at least being equal to war, not being the lowest of the 3,and if you think DRK is more easy that PLD you never try seriously optimice DRK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    since shake it off is miles better that TBN DRK should wiled the best dps of the 3 or at least being equal to war, not being the lowest of the 3,and if you think DRK is more easy that PLD you never try seriously optimice DRK.
    Honey, I can beat you on chardanook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    Honey, I can beat you on chardanook.
    First im a man, and second come at me on chardanook without a mch, nin, dragoon And 31,12% of balance uptime like me and we can Talk.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    First im a man, and second come at me on chardanook without a mch, nin, dragoon And 31,12% of balance uptime like me and we can Talk.
    6 Darks, two white mages.

    Let's !@#%ing go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    6 Darks, two white mages.

    Let's !@#%ing go.
    No, if we made It they can Nerf us bcs we oviously op ^^
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    First im a man, and second come at me on chardanook without a mch, nin, dragoon And 31,12% of balance uptime like me and we can Talk.
    I've already beaten your best twice before on non-optimal comps, and I've done so when I had a byakko weapon back in early april. I don't even have a diamond weapon, and I still smoke you.

    Come at me, princess.
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    Daul Ban
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    Come at me, princess.
    Now this is signature worthy.
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    One day I'll be the MT mountain I want to be... But that day is not today. (As of Patch 3.2)

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