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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    How does Overwatch, arguably second only to LoL, manage to maintain its status despite offering precisely zero exclusives? FFXIV aspires to be an E-Sports game yet an actual E-Sports juggernaut condemned exclusive rewards as a poor incentive. Considering the state of these respective franchises' PvP... maybe they were on to something.
    if you're going to make that example be knowledgeable about what you're talking about, even with feast as well

    league offers exclusive victorious skins for gold+ with exclusive recolors for gold+ in premade 3v3 or 5v5s, also an icon of which division and sub division you ended at, also an exclusive loading frame for the division you ended at

    overwatch offers exclusive icons for participating in the season and reaching grandmasters, also competitive points for the exclusive golden weapons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crit View Post
    if you're going to make that example be knowledgeable about what you're talking about, even with feast as well

    league offers exclusive victorious skins for gold+ with exclusive recolors for gold+ in premade 3v3 or 5v5s, also an icon of which division and sub division you ended at, also an exclusive loading frame for the division you ended at

    overwatch offers exclusive icons for participating in the season and reaching grandmasters, also competitive points for the exclusive golden weapons

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    So you are cool with Overwatch system? Awesome let us make it so people can farm wolf collars over the course of a season, win or lose they (more for winning of course) earn currency, and at the end of the season you receive a bulk sum depending on your rank. Maybe you are not okay with the system that overwatch uses and I was reading too much into your post or were trying to correct Bourne, but if you are okay with how OW does things would you be okay if SE did something similar?

    Causal players keep a game mode alive, if the PvP community pushes away incentives aimed toward causal players PvP is going to go the way of the vermillion, which I do not think anyone who enjoys PvP wants. I mean players tried out feast simply due to the mount reward, imagine how many players would try the feast if they could earn said reward overtime. During the path lows if when players wish to try something new, but due to the nature of PvP in this game that is not possible if they make it so people are still winning to queue at the lower ranks even those that join late can climb their way out of the lower ranks and work their way into the higher ranks for more competitive matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    The actual trophy aside, the other items are trophies in mount form. Why take this away from players?
    Notone is taken them, they WILL still have it.
    Just look at savage, Raider proud they ones it clear it. 2 years later this become super easy uet they don't mind.
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    Someone was telling me that if you don't get top 100 within the first 48 hours of the new season your shit out of luck to get into that ranking bracket. I think these rewards are great and fun but its too bad that a returning player such as myself is locked out mid season. Some remnants of Tanaka remain in the development team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    So you are cool with Overwatch system? Awesome let us make it so people can farm wolf collars over the course of a season, win or lose they (more for winning of course) earn currency, and at the end of the season you receive a bulk sum depending on your rank. Maybe you are not okay with the system that overwatch uses and I was reading too much into your post or were trying to correct Bourne, but if you are okay with how OW does things would you be okay if SE did something similar?
    overwatch is a shooter so blizzard has very little to do when it comes to incentives, I dont mind overwatch's system but SE can make this system a lot better if they so choose too with a certain currency you get for reaching top 100 and exchanging that for any of the past rewards, probably a downgraded version of those past rewards
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshlikeSnow View Post
    Someone was telling me that if you don't get top 100 within the first 48 hours of the new season your shit out of luck to get into that ranking bracket. I think these rewards are great and fun but its too bad that a returning player such as myself is locked out mid season. Some remnants of Tanaka remain in the development team.
    lol that's a lie, I went from unranked to diamond last season during the 2nd to last week, just queue up lmao
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    I sat in queue for a good part of the afternoon and evening... Tried queuing as melee, ranged and tank across different times...and waited (and worked in the background so my time wasn't totally wasted). Not a single pop. This was during what would be considered prime time on Primal so I can't speak for other data centers but it wasn't at like 2am or some obnoxious time. And this was during dark week! I was really surprised to not get so much as a nibble of activity.

    I don't know about it being quite so strict as being on the leaderboard within 48 hours of the new season launch or you're SOL, but yeah, when a new season launches, you absolutely have to no-life it to the exclusion of any other new shinies that release with the patch if you want a shot at it (and aren't a healer).
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crit View Post
    overwatch is a shooter so blizzard has very little to do when it comes to incentives, I dont mind overwatch's system but SE can make this system a lot better if they so choose too with a certain currency you get for reaching top 100 and exchanging that for any of the past rewards, probably a downgraded version of those past rewards
    So having a system that allows you to earn the currency required to buy rewards overtime should only be exclusive to shooters? Fair enough, but if I may ask how would you create incentives to make it so lower tiers remain active to allows players to jump into the feast between patches and allow them to climb ranks even late into the season? Since we know diamond and above to pop, problem is getting into diamond late into the season due to the lack of players in the lower ranks. Adding a means to earn the rewards overtime would not require new assists to be made by SE, and would give players wishing to try for top 100 a chance even late into the season since they will have players to play against and climb.

    That is how I see it playing out in my head, though I cannot say for certain. I am welcome to other ideas. Since the issue with queues at the lower ranks creates a barrier for those that join the season late, and I do not feel that telling players to try again at the start of the next season is a viable idea.
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    They should just add weekly "competitions" Score X amount per week and get a currency that is let's say 1/4 the worth of the Wolf Collars. So while the seasonal Bronze gets you 3 with the max being 7 from Diamond, they could have it where you get "Silver Collars" with the ability to get 4 per week at max rank, so in a month you would get Silver Tier worth of "Wolf Collars" if you play weekly.

    Would make the items more accessible given how inaccessible it currently is with the way the top 100 works, plus they could even add the other PVP games into the mix to add more ways to obtain "Silver Collars"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Fair enough, but if I may ask how would you create incentives to make it so lower tiers remain active to allows players to jump into the feast between patches and allow them to climb ranks even late into the season?
    Abolish wolf marks and put gear availble for wolf marks into chests rng rewards per match adding the current collar weapons as the lowest drop rate
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