Pevious feast rewards added to pvp store

[Theodric]

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Pretty much. It's also increasingly unlikely that FFXIV's PvP is ever going to be a popular 'ESPORT'. Let's be realistic - it's not going to suddenly become an overnight success like Fortnite's Battle Royale. PvP in FFXIV has always been a side activity, but if it's being given a share of development time and resources then it should be made engaging for as many people as possible.

Then, of course, you have the deliberately dense/combative posters rushing to defend these flawed systems even as the number of people queuing up dwindles more and more with each passing week across all PvP modes. If nothing else, given their attitude/lack of ability to debate I'm beginning to understand why the chat function was removed from Feast, much as I might disagree with the decision.

[Razzii]

Since when does everyone believe that players GRIND FEAST for 2 weeks and sit on rank.....?
We have a new ranking system where you keep your highest earned ranking..................
Sound like alot of you have actually tried Feast....

Ranking decay will not help as much as people think.
A diamond player will not demote all the way back to GOLD to make the ques pop in unranked-silver....

[Artorias_soul]

Their just pixel in the end, and even if you( did ) get the reward, how often are you really going show it off/ use it?
Me, i don't care what they do/don't do with the rewards (but keep the idea's coming for them), as long they make the que's pop.

[Shirolumi]

Since when does everyone believe that players GRIND FEAST for 2 weeks and sit on rank.....?
We have a new ranking system where you keep your highest earned ranking..................
Sound like alot of you have actually tried Feast....

Ranking decay will not help as much as people think.
A diamond player will not demote all the way back to GOLD to make the ques pop in unranked-silver....

No idea why people believe that. When I played during season 5 and 6 it was constantly popping on diamond every day until the end of black week. My friend is doing S7 now and he is constantly stressed out these last 5 days as well and he is around #60 on the ladder now. So that's just a myth.

[Commander_Justitia]

Again a PvP thread in general discussions, this topic was covered multiple times in PvP forum, its like the reoccurring rage thread with all the same people spreading their PvP knowledge (non existing) from reddit posts and live letter residentsleeper spams. You are so fun to talk to

Let me tell you a story at first...
I watched a PvE player streaming ranked Feast earlier this season, it was something around silver/gold queue. His healer disconnect right at the start of the match (dc's were quite often at the start of the season for some reasons), during that time the enemy team ignored that dc and killed like 3 of his teammembers before his healer could reconnect. The match went on another 30-1min before the enemy team managed to get the 4th final kill to ensure an early win. Guess what was the streamers reaction? He complained about his healer being useless, called him a wintrader/thrower, not sure anymore if he even reported him.

Examples like these just show that there is often more to it than you guys see at first....It takes time to be able to tell what is really going on in a match. (The healer wasn't wintrading or a thrower)


On the topic...
Wolfs Marks could be farmed by bots/afking in frontlines. It is therefore not a good option if you don't want them to become garo 2.0 mounts, which would devalue one of the most rare mounts to be garbage mounts. And whoever said you need 2 weeks for 20k wolf marks... you get 20k in a few hours actually. Nice information right there :thumbsup:

I don't care that achievement hunter or mount collector don't get these rewards. They are not meant for everyone to have, but if you would get them by other means like a timespending-grind a lot of players would prefer that by design, they like mindlessly hitting a dummy/ice and be done with it instead of a competition like a leaderboard. Some here obviously do not like to play PvP but still feel inclined to get these rewards, why is that?

If the rewards would be made obtainable in a very easy manner, they wouldn't be rare anymore. The Feast Ranked mode would only reward titles and a trophy for top1. It is not a good incentive to play if you can't get anything new from it. It needs to be interesting every season.

The PvP gameplay mechanics are very simple now, a lot of newcomers are in the top100 this season, some even in top10, why not you as well? Because it is possible to promote to higher ranktiers with 20-30% winrates, it is no wonder that queues are dying towards the end of a season. It doesn't necessarily mean there are less players, the playerbase just shifts into higher tiers. And it is almost impossible to get enough rating in the last weeks, it is only natural nobody wants to queue as unranked anymore.

With all that said I would indeed reward players more who manage to get into platinum and diamond but sadly didn't manage to get a place in top100. The wolf collar NPC could get additional loot unlocked depending on the tierrank you finished ( in a similar fashion to potd-reward NPC for clearing the tiers 100/150/200)including old top100 rewards. It would still prevent people with bronze and silver wolfcollar to get top100 rewards over time, which would be my concern. You gotta play the mode at least somewhat to get the rewards and not just nothing...

[Redname]

You gotta play the mode at least somewhat to get the rewards and not just nothing...

You gotta play? How? 647 minutes queues? I dont care much about the mounts. And i agree they should be only for top 100 and no exchanged for wolf marks. But i actually want to play the feast. And if the solution is wait until the beginning of the season, then clearly something is wrong with the design. The outcome is i settle playing frontline cause its the only mode available.

[AirWeaver]

The rewards are pretty difficult to obtain as of right now. It would be nice if SE put them in mog station a few months after the season ended, or atleast maybe the past seasons reward. I know for one I would very much like the season 1+2 crown - it looks nice on my miqo'te, who I use for RP purposes

[Razzii]

You gotta play? How? 647 minutes queues? I dont care much about the mounts. And i agree they should be only for top 100 and no exchanged for wolf marks. But i actually want to play the feast. And if the solution is wait until the beginning of the season, then clearly something is wrong with the design. The outcome is i settle playing frontline cause its the only mode available.

The queue times are long towards the end of the seasons for unranked-silver matches. It does suck that many players cannot queue during the beginning due to major updates happening during the initial start of the seasons.
The community should be asking SE for solutions towards this, not complaining about why are top 100 rewards only exclusive to Feast. There are very skilled players who queue towards the end/midway of the season but they are just ALTs of former top 100 players and such.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

There is no such thing as people queing for 2 weeks and sitting for the entire rest of the time (at least for top 100). The season also doesn't even last 4 months, barely over two.

Just goes to show people who don't play the Feast are throwing around random numbers to force a narrative

rank decay is something that is needed though.

With enough of a lead, you certainly can sit within two weeks give or take. As for the season length, it's typically ranged from ten to twelve weeks. So we're both off, though if you want to split hairs, it's whatever.

For once, we agree on something. Rank decay should be a thing. Why it hasn't been implemented yet after eight seasons boggles the mind.

Hey Cassandra ^^ I haven't seen you play much feast lately since we're on the same data center and was wondering if you had prior experience with the game mode. If you say its easy to queue for a week and sit on a rank wouldn't everyone else have done it, yourself included? If you put in the equivalent time you put into your forum posts into feast, I'm sure you could get the rewards easily!!

No, actually, I could not. At least not without it feelings like a chore. Between raiding, running content with friends and other things I do, I wouldn't have enough time unless I did little else but PvP for 2-3 weeks at precisely the moment Feast released. And therein lies the difference. Should I choose, I can raid several weeks or months after the tier releases and inevitably chance up. If I miss the initial rush due to prog or real life, chances are I am out of luck. Hardly an incentive to the average player, which contributes severely to PvP persistent death every single season. As for my post count, it spans nearly three years with posts of varying length. Some take less than a minute to type. Nice try though. ^^

Admittedly, my main reason for not queuing is I lost interest come the Stormblood changes.

If the rewards would be made obtainable in a very easy manner, they wouldn't be rare anymore. The Feast Ranked mode would only reward titles and a trophy for top1. It is not a good incentive to play if you can't get anything new from it. It needs to be interesting every season.

How does Overwatch, arguably second only to LoL, manage to maintain its status despite offering precisely zero exclusives? FFXIV aspires to be an E-Sports game yet an actual E-Sports juggernaut condemned exclusive rewards as a poor incentive. Considering the state of these respective franchises' PvP... maybe they were on to something.

[Stormfur]

I think it was rather short-sighted of SE to offer much-desired mounts as exclusive rewards (in place of trophies) in the first place knowing full well that only a sliver of a fraction of a percentage of the entire playerbase would ever obtain them. On the JP forum, many people would like to get that space-chair, but they can't sit in queues all day, so they figure if they can't queue repeatedly within the first 2-3 weeks, their chances are zero right out of the gate and they don't even try.

You could say "well, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take", but no other mode in this game forces you to try and reschedule your life around when queues are most active.

At least with the centurio tiger, despite the grind being insane, you can work toward it over time. At the current rate, I expect to have mine by 7.0.