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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    All of this assumes there will be a primal in the first place... while more trials than not are primals, the possibility that it's not isn't something that should be discarded.

    That does leave everything up in the air, but it's nice to not be able to predict how everything's going to go for once. The protagonists will come out on top, of course, but what's going to be lost in the fire remains unknown.
    Since they did not show the trial in the trailer we can kinda assume that these NPC fights are either before or afterwards. So that is already not the trial. Other than Zenos coming back and giving us another fight I just cant see any of the NPCs being so hard on us, that we need an 8 man trial..I mean I still see all of those as solo fights in the story itself but wouldnt it feel a bit boring to just kill NPCs with other people.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  2. #142
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    SE loves sticking to stuff they already did before. In HW the first 2 primals are beastmen related and then a story related one that was powered by a outside source (or at least buffed) Byakko is part of a (possible) chain the 4 Lords. Byakko is also the SB equivalent to Sephirot. So right now we are looking at the SB equivalent of Nidhogg, which was no primal but a boss to end a story arc.

    Which means if they stick to formula Zenos would have a high likelihood. He like Nidhogg was a dungeon boss and his death would end a story arc.

    However the trailer shows imo a inner struggle od yotsuyu in which she will lose to darkness ( zenos cuts down gosetsu) and then the WoL destroys that darkness, i dont think that version of zenos is any more but a image.

    That fight will imo be the catalyst for the trial but i dont think it will be zenos ... i think asahi will see the failure and use the mirror to sacrafice his sister in order to destroy the WoL who took his "friend"/"saviour" zenos and then also his sister.

    And this rollercoaster leaves me with the following options. Asahi himself will be the trial or whatever is caused by the mirror. A small chance for zenos but not likely.

    I also think she will die which closes her redemption arc early. Just my 2 cents.
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  3. #143
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    Zenos technically already had his big fight in the form of shinryu also this would be the first time repeating this formula since 2.3 wasn't like this, not to mention that the only time they had a secret trial before, it was nabriales we could say that the secret trial will be elidubus based on that, though the moon theme really points towards a primal
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  4. #144
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    You're all over thinking it. It's going to be a namazu. One is going to see the mirror pop out and want it and get taken over by what's inside the mirror. Yes, I'm just kidding and I know that kind of out from left field stuff suits Hildibrand more. Sorry I had to try and make sense of the one that's high or dead that's part of their mount and why they're like that. Please continue with the serious conversation. You know who we haven't seen in the trailer or in the screen shots on the patch site? Yugiri. So, maybe it's not his sister he kills.
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  5. #145
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    Mh, that's true we haven't really seen her
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  6. #146
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    The fact that he refers to the the individual as a fallen foe could really only suggest Yotsuyu.
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  7. #147
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    we know it'll be a primal fight cause in the live letter they goofed and said, "the new primal fight". Said as in written documentation.
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  8. #148
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    Well, if they said in the Live Letter that it's a primal then it's probably a primal. And if the other languages are saying Asahi is taunting the Warrior of Light over having killed a female foe, he probably kills Yotsuyu. (This detail would naturally be omitted from the EN script; English is an unusually gender-neutral language.)

    Ah well, I'm sure there will still be some surprises in store, and we still don't know what the primal in question is. With the lunar focus I'd bet on Tsukuyomi or Kaguya, but... who knows?
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Ah well, I'm sure there will still be some surprises in store, and we still don't know what the primal in question is. With the lunar focus I'd bet on Tsukuyomi or Kaguya, but... who knows?
    OMG, Kaguya, yes. That would be much better if it was Yotsuyu who became the primal...

    Although, not that I want this to happen, but with the most recent trailer, what about Gosetsu? I mean his name is similar to the Japanese word for moon, Gosetsu, Getsu. I doubt that's it but its an interesting thought.
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  10. #150
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    They didn't say it, but then when they were showing slides for E3 the wording included primal fight from 4.3. So they have kept it hush hush to the name. I do wonder if the name of the fight is really as spoilery as a title we got that later was changed was.
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