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  1. #41
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    Malkria's Avatar
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    Selina Maimhov
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    Behemoth
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    I agree with you on that one.

    I run the MSQ roulette to help others and benefit me. If I didn't see any value in running it, I would have been in the same crowd as the ones who preferred to keep the skip cutscene option. If they increased the adventurer in need bonus, put in current end-game tomes as daily rewards, and allow each Adventurer in Need run to count for tank mounts, it might have a little more value for others (your truly included.)
    I feel there should be three changes, one the 'adventurer in need' bonus should apply to ANY class type at all times. Second, it should ALWAYS be available. Right now I run the place only once a day, but I would do it more often if I could use the bonus to level alts jobs as yet another leveling option. Finally there should be an endgame reward for vets to get for doing it. Even if it is, 20 red stones and maybe 10 yellow once per day. There should be a reason for vet end-game players to wait around to play old content on a fully leveled character. XP means nothing to a player who has maxed out the class they want or even all the classes.
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  2. #42
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post

    You'll notice that I have EVERY JOB at 70, yet I still ran MSQ roulette on a daily basis before 4.3 because it was a quick and easy source of Poetics. As a byproduct that meant that I was helping new players clear the content. After the change there is very little incentive for me to run it because the primary reason I still ran it was for the QUICK and EASY Tomes that I used for soil and/or popping an S Rank.

    So I'm not sure what your point you were trying to make by pointing out your character card? That MSQ roulette isn't worth it anymore? Well we're in agreement about that then. There's very little incentive for anyone who's already run MSQ dungeons to participate in MSQ roulette atm. So as a byproduct, new players who HAVE TO COMPLETE it are now getting excessively long queue times. However, they CANNOT skip it unless they pay more money, which is pretty nefarious.
    There is another option, which I was alluding to, just wait, or do MSQ as arcanist/summonor/scholar.

    The complaints are coming from people who want to spam it for tomes/exp. Thus these people aren't creating a positive experience for people who want to watch the cutscenes.

    The one I queued for finally popped at 1:38am, when I queued at 12:35am. Wound up with Praetorium. Took until 2:31am. So assuming the experience is the same in all data centers at an off-peak time like 1:30 in the morning, the entire queue and completion took... 2 hours look at that.

    Now had I played it with a healer or tank, the queue would have been at most about 20 minutes at this time of night/morning. During prime-time it's instant as tank or healer.

    If one was to drag a friend into this game, and you want them to play the story without long queues, tell them to pick Conjurer, Marauder or Gladiator, or arcanist (will still have queues until Scholar can be unlocked.)

    Also, as far as EXP goes, it's not very good on DPS once you are over level 50.
    [1:41]The Praetorium has begun.

    [1:48]The command chamber is sealed off!
    [1:49]The command chamber is no longer sealed!
    [1:49]You gain 29243 (+150%) experience points.

    [2:04]The Laboratorium Primum is no longer sealed!
    [2:04]You gain 48573 (+150%) experience points.

    [2:12]The Echelon is no longer sealed!
    [2:12]You gain 65810 (+150%) experience points.

    [2:25]The Porta Decumana is no longer sealed!
    [2:25]You gain 95066 (+150%) experience points.

    2:30]The Porta Decumana is no longer sealed!
    [2:30]You gain 797136 (+150%) experience points.
    [2:30]You attain level 53!
    [2:30]A bonus of 609,879 experience points and 5,100 gil has been awarded for using the duty roulette.

    [2:30]The Praetorium has ended.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 05-07-2018 at 06:45 PM.

  3. #43
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    Hiveer's Avatar
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    Character
    Gael Laurant
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I actually enjoy the cutscenes, though I don't run it often because I run stuff with others and they hardly tolerate MSQ.
    Though I agree, the EXP reward is really underwhelming and should be adjusted further, considering the time it takes to run the whole thing.
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  4. #44
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    There is another option, which I was alluding to, just wait, or do MSQ as arcanist/summonor/scholar.
    This is about the intended way to run it as watching the cutscenes in the inn was.

    The complaints are coming from people who want to spam it for tomes/exp. Thus[ these people aren't creating a positive experience for people who want to watch the cutscenes.
    The people complaining would've created a positive experience for people who wanna watch the cutscenes by getting them into the instance. Get your head out of the sand, in this thread alone we've seen people queueing directly to the dungeons suffering from painful queues. And there's absolutely no reason to queue directly unless it's your first clear, namely the intended demographic. Not every plays healer, and not everyone has an fc to run them through it - forget running unsynced, get that poor dps past the queue first.

    If one was to drag a friend into this game, and you want them to play the story without long queues, tell them to pick Conjurer, Marauder or Gladiator, or arcanist (will still have queues until Scholar can be unlocked.)
    And effectively have them not play because they wanna roll a DRG. This is not a viable solution and is badly designed.
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  5. #45
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I still feel like the xp for running that content should be much much larger than it is now.

    I ran it twice since the change and its not worth it. Even with the adventurer in need bonus.
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  6. #46
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    They're going to release PoTD 60-70.

    No need to increase this.
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  7. #47
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    Doom Moonwalker
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    Diabolos
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    Black Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    It should at least be a guaranteed level up for the time lol.
    It basically is.
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  8. #48
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    I admit I don't run the MSQ Roulette as often as I used to(even less now since I have everything at 70), but when I did, it was when I knew it would get me to the next level(running the 50/60, Leveling, Trials, Alliance Raid, and then the MSQ Roulette if that little push was needed to get my level - those first 4 almost always guaranteed a level a day, sometimes the MSQ was needed, sometimes 2-3 SB daily hunt monsters). The EXP is not as bad as people state. Could it be better? Sure, but so could the over world monster EXP. If you don't feel it's worth it to you, then don't run it. Simple as that.
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  9. #49
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    Most veterans don't run this content as the reward for it does not compensate the time spent if you are max level. I don't care if my movement is locked but at least let people who have already seen it a million times have the option to exit out of the cutscene so we can at least chat while new people are watching the cinematics. I have an issue with is the lack of foresight on SE's part. What is the point of helping one demographic of players have a better player experience while worsening the experience for the other demographic? This is just trading one gripe for another.
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  10. #50
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahati View Post
    so we can at least chat
    The chat is accessible during cutscenes, at least on the pc.

    What is the point of helping one demographic of players have a better player experience while worsening the experience for the other demographic? This is just trading one gripe for another.
    One demographic is the one this content is intended to while the other demographic worsened the first's experience by forcing them to skip cutscenes or kicking them. The problem is that in order to even get into the instance, the second demographic is required, which is where this so called solution breaks somewhat.
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