I refuse to run Castrum the way it is now

[Zeonx]

After I found out it happened I stopped, it defeated the purpose of the skip cutscene option they had added in the options.
For a little bit of exp I can gain from a higher dungeon or a short few fates and some tomes I don't use anymore.

I hardly ran it before they did it after I finished I was done I did however try to help others but not anymore after this happen.

I don't like things auto playing games for me and I understand its a choice but you shouldn't make choices for other players because someone is new, they chose to watch cutscene of ships and monsters/humans running up and small dialog instead of fighting the actual battle.

isnt this what the INN was made for to begin with?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

isnt this what the INN was made for to begin with?

The inn was made to go BACK and watch cutscenes if you wanted a refresher, not as the primary way to see cutscene content, especially from the final story dungeons, as there are scenes that are not in the Undending Journey.

If you don't agree with the changes, just don't run it. It does save new players the headache of dealing with people who aren't patient and want to ruin their experience the first time through. It took my group almost 2 hours the first time we did praetorium, but that was before speed running it for tomes really became a thing. I'd want people to have the ability to have the same experience I did the first time I ran it.

[Zeonx]

If you don't agree with the changes, just don't run it.

Perfect example of someone who skips over stuff and doesn't read right here.

I don't run it if you did read my comment fully you glance and pop a comment funny.

I don't agree with your statement because what if its just 1 new person and everyone has already done it, cause usually that's how many people usually are new maybe if your lucky you will get 2 or 3 but very rare.

Also I agree with the people who shouldn't be stuck watching a cut scene that's all I am saying I never said I run the dungeon I stopped when it they updated it where you couldn't skip next time read.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Perfect example of someone who skips over stuff and doesn't read right here.

I don't run it if you did read my comment fully you glance and pop a comment funny.

I don't agree with your statement because what if its just 1 new person and everyone has already done it, cause usually that's how many people usually are new maybe if your lucky you will get 2 or 3 but very rare.

Also I agree with the people who shouldn't be stuck watching a cut scene that's all I am saying I never said I run the dungeon I stopped when it happen next time read.

I did read your statement, that was a general comment. No one is forced to run the story dungeons, and they have their own roulette.

Would you want spoilers to the latest book or movie if everyone else in the group had already seen/read it?

If you queue for "Main Scenario Roulette" you should expect that people will be doing it the first time, and should respect their wishes. This isn't "Skip Cutscene for Tomes Roulette"

And for the record, I haven't run MSR since early 3.0, as I was getting tired of people bum rushing the dungeons and allowing new players to get completely lost. I also ran low on time to spend in said dungeons when people were patient.

[Zeonx]

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except this isn't a movie not the same thing you aren't forced to listen to spoilers you are free to cover your ears or leave.

Unlike the cut scenes in the game.

plus only key cut scenes are cid and end cutscene the rest is basically like a intro of the beginning dungeon except in castrum its like every 100 steps lol

[Jijifli]

No one is forced to run the story dungeons, and they have their own roulette.

Incorrect. New players who don't want to do a payment to skip by are forced to. Players that might not give a single care about it. Some will wanna see cut-scenes, yes, but not every new player does. Some new players want to catch up with their friends, while also not paying extra money into the game that they still might not be 100% they'll stick to the end for.

They removed the option of choice because a few customers complained it was a terrible experience. I had to go through it on an alt like that, and if I look at it from a new player perspective, it's STILL a terrible experience. Castum in particular the game might as well play itself with how little you can move before the next cut-scene. I don't think anyone spends $15 to watch a movie.

One time. Out of how many hours that they invest into this game on a particular character?

If you had ANY idea how many hours I've invested just getting all of the lux relics, 2 zetas(over halfway done with book step on a 3rd), 7 anemos, all of the bird mounts, over 200 runs of the newer extremes, not to mention leveling other characters... The 2 hours required for those two dungeons for people now, isnt even a drop in the bucket. In comparison, I spent 14 hours grinding out for my very first clear of o5s the first week it came out. Once you've cleared those dungeons for the story, you never have to go back again if you so wish. You can spend your hundreds or thousands of hours grinding other stuff. One and done.

You missed the point.

You still have to do it at least once. You NEVER had to do lux. You NEVER had to do Eureka. You NEVER had to do savage. But I still had to do these dungeons to move forward.

Let's plug in the idea you have though, where once you do it you never look at it again. Okay, so nobody queue for the roulette. Aaand... nobody's getting in. People start complaining they can't get in. New players are stuck because they're waiting all day to try, but they can't get that 1 tank or 1 healer.

WAIT! That sounds familiar. I wonder... was this... back when the roulette didn't exist in the first place? How weird. Almost like the queue was put in for the first time because nobody wanted to run that with skippable cut-scenes.

[Enla]

It's pretty much why most people I know are refusing to run it as well, myself included. Sadly however this change was the easiest bandaid they could apply to two very poorly designed dungeons without outright rehauling them entirely. There's never going to be an elegant solution that makes everyone happy, particularly with such old content that's unlikely to ever be worth fixing in the first place...

[Zeonx]

This is what they should of done.

Once the dungeon has been defeated pop up a question do you want to watch the cutscenes?

Yes / no

Then they wont miss out they can watch the mech come in and cid talk and all that stuff at very end without wasting anyone elses time.

[Emstidor]

Haha yes, all those problematic newbies who selfishly posted on the official forums about how people ruined their first experience in Castrum/Prae by locking them out of the story and/or fights. I forget that they (as us who sympathized with them) are the real issue here.

Listen dude, I agree that the original implementation of these two dungeons was flawed and the devs obviously agreed, since they haven't implemented another cutscene-heavy dungeon, but that still doesn't give you carte blanche to shit on another person's first experience just because it's your thousandth time running the dungeon and you just want your tomes.

[Zeonx]

it's your thousandth time running the dungeon and you just want your tomes.

Again who says I run the dungeon anymore?

I agree with the cutscene thing was overboard for those who keep doing it all I am saying.

You can put blame on me all you want doesn't make it true and read what you are saying "that still doesn't give you carte blanche to **** on another person's first experience" <----- so what about the ones who are skipping the scenes doesn't give you the right to ruin theirs either in your eyes its a 1 way argument cut scenes or no cut scenes.

you can get angry all you want but its true.

nobody is ruining experience either want to know why?

If you were smart you'd look at it this way, they run the dungeon again later after watching cut scenes and fight the same battles over again oh guess they really didn't miss much did they.

so much for ruining their experience, they only hampered themselves if you ask me.

so huff and puff about it some more its a case of jumping the gun after first run.. theeeeeeeeeee end.