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  1. #61
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    Levarius's Avatar
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    Lev Granseal
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    This entire run was terrible, now imagine half the players doing this.
    I've had this happen in Dun Scaith, except it was my co-healer and they forgot to repair their gear. They were so useless, but I managed to solo heal it fine. Now that I think of it, I've probably had more issues with people forgetting to repair than wearing low ilvl gear.
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    Last edited by Levarius; 05-01-2018 at 03:38 PM.

  2. #62
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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levarius View Post
    I've had this happen in Dun Scaith, except it was my co-healer and they forgot to repair their gear. They were so useless, but I managed to solo heal it fine. Now that I think of it, I've probably had more issues with people forgetting to repair than wearing low ilvl gear.
    That's not so much an issue anymore since it gives a warning now when you queue. But honestly failure to repair was an easy thing to miss. Self repair in dungeons was always one of the biggest perks of the crafting system.
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  3. #63
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    That's not so much an issue anymore since it gives a warning now when you queue. But honestly failure to repair was an easy thing to miss. Self repair in dungeons was always one of the biggest perks of the crafting system.
    It would be really nice, especially in 24-man raids, if there was an NPC near the shortcuts that could repair...more so when Rabanastre was first introduced and many parties were stonewalled by Hashmal, some alliances simply had to disband the duty entirely because mostly everyone's gear was broken.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 05-01-2018 at 04:07 PM.

  4. #64
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post


    This entire run was terrible, now imagine half the players doing this.
    If they impose a ilvl restriction on leveling roulette fine, but no need to compound that restriction by forcing players to equip the highest gear accessible to their level when the DF can simply put them in a dungeon appropriate to their ivl. Your added restriction of mandating left hand gear is understandable, but wasn't part of the original argument I was discussing.

    EDIT: Did your Alliance try kicking the player?
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    Last edited by SDaemon; 05-02-2018 at 02:03 AM.

  5. #65
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    Alushaun Zenfist
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    Just dawned on me what "iLevel" refers too.

    #newplayershateabbreviations
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  6. #66
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    Squires Ailith
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    Siren
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    Most content that has a min ilvl, the min is 15-20 ilvl below the gear that it drops(ie byakku ex min ilvl 340, drops 355 weapons). Based off of that, castrum min ilvl would be in the 268-273 range. Thing is, ilvl != skill. A bad player isn't going to make your run any easier just because they are a higher ilvl. I can see putting one in to prevent extremely low ilvl people out. It feels like people want a ilvl 280 requirement for Doma and that won't happen.
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  7. #67
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    If they impose a ilvl restriction on leveling roulette fine, but no need to compound that restriction by forcing players to equip the highest gear accessible to their level when the DF can simply put them in a dungeon appropriate to their ivl. Your added restriction of mandating left hand gear is understandable, but wasn't part of the original argument I was discussing.

    EDIT: Did your Alliance try kicking the player?
    I'm not sure if you're understanding the issue.

    Each item contributes X to the ilevel. This player met the minimum ilevel of 50 for LotA with only right-hand gear and their weapon. This is because of the gear power creep.

    If you have a level 70 character, it should be wearing a full level 70 left-hand gear set. If you can cheese the ilevel requirement with no left hand gear, there's a problem. In the leveling roulette, there IS NO iLevel REQUIREMENT. So it's entirely possible to get someone wearing nothing, in a level 66 duty. The roulettes should be disabled if the player is not wearing a full minimum iLevel left-hand gear set that meets the highest cleared duty for that roulette. eg If you've cleared LotA, Sycrus, and WoD, then you should be wearing all level 50 gear, ilevel 120 gear to do the Alliance roulette. If your job has not yet reached that level to enter that duty, then the roulette will drop you from the duties that you don't meet the level requirement for.

    It's not asking very much to at the VERY LEAST, to make ARR, HW and SB minimum Level/iLevel requirements. To play HW content, you should have level 50, iLevel 130 gear. To play SB content you need at least level 60 ilevel 230 gear, because that is what ARR and HW content syncs you to in expert roulettes.

    But you also need to consider the fact that the iLevel of gear creep means that players can avoid "hard" content by removing gear at duty registration. At the very least block players that are not wearing full gear appropriate for all content in the roulette from being able to queue for the roulette. If you're level 70, and queuing for Alliance Roulette, you should have at least ilevel 305 gear. If you're level 69, and queuing for the Alliance roulette, then Level 60, ilevel 235, in all slots should be the minimum. Hismena in Idyllshire, sells Shire gear at level 60, ilevel 260 gear.
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  8. #68
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    Fredco191's Avatar
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    Magni Henriksson
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    Sure. I saw a tank in Sastasha with level 1 gear. It wasn’t an awful run but like- I was concerned.
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  9. #69
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
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    I can see your point entirely I just don't agree with the lengths you're asking for. In that comment you made originally that I responded to and going off that reasoning, a level 57 player would need to be full ilevel 142 in order to even access leveling roulette, which is completely unnecessary and a major barrier in a player's leveling experience. If ilevel requirements were set, they would be put into a leveling dungeon appropriate to their ilevel. Yes, as you brought up ilevel can be cheesed which is why IF they were to put requirements on leveling dungeons then situations like that would need to be take into account when sorting the players through the DF system and the checks to ilvl that get made.
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    Last edited by SDaemon; 05-02-2018 at 01:34 PM.

  10. #70
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    Sure. I saw a tank in Sastasha with level 1 gear. It wasn’t an awful run but like- I was concerned.
    Now imagine that in Castrum Abania.
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