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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    So what if you get someone in the raid (let's say RDM) who legitimately sees a caster drop that is an upgrade for them right then and there and then they get Greed-outrolled by a tank or some melee DPS who wants it for one of their casters- which might even be for glamour?
    Key words here being 'might'.

    Lets say someone plays as their 'alt' Red Mage who doesn't need any more gear, while some current red Mage gear drops and you happen to be playing on your fully geared Tank but you ungeared Red mage could do wit it?

    It's all a two-way street. It's all hypothetical 'what ifs'. For some this will be a detriment and for others a boon.
    Some however are just averse to change whatever it is.

    People often feel compelled to play is jobs that aren't the ones they're trying to gear up atm. Tanks and Healers get through queues quicker for example, or they've come as part of a pre-made party who already have 4 DPS and someone had to draw the short straw.
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Key words here being 'might'.

    Lets say someone plays as their 'alt' Red Mage who doesn't need any more gear, while some current red Mage gear drops and you happen to be playing on your fully geared Tank but you ungeared Red mage could do wit it?
    Okay? So the person on RDM "doesn't need any more gear?" So they're either not rolling at all or rolling for glamour? If not winning the drop for a job you're not even playing (in a 24-man raid meant for more casual playstyles) to someone who bothered to queue up as a caster and happened to get lucky and see a caster drop they happened to want... is unfair how?

    It's all a two-way street. It's all hypothetical 'what ifs'. For some this will be a detriment and for others a boon.
    Of course it's hypothetical "what ifs," the whole premise of them even trying to change the Loot rules comes from the "what if somebody wants drops of another role but loses to people actually participating in the content as said role when they roll Need?"

    Some however are just averse to change whatever it is.
    Right, so when there's a large backlash from the playerbase, they're all just "averse to change-" not because they find fault with an idea?

    People often feel compelled to play is jobs that aren't the ones they're trying to gear up atm.
    Guilty. But you know what? I never feel like I'm more deserving of a specific piece of equipment over somebody who is currently participating in the content of the matching role. If I am serious enough about wanting something for either an upgrade or glamour, I will queue-up as that role.

    Tanks and Healers get through queues quicker for example
    And now it's possible to queue up quickly and be able to outroll the DPS on gear they might actually need as an upgrade. Sounds about right.
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    Taiyo Shikasu
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    And now it's possible to queue up quickly and be able to outroll the DPS on gear they might actually need as an upgrade. Sounds about right.
    What if and this is gonna sound crazy, but queue up as the job you want to gear up?
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    What if and this is gonna sound crazy, but queue up as the job you want to gear up?
    They should like, totally do something to incentivize people to do that. Could you imagine? Maybe even give a perk or something that makes actually being at the content as the job you want to gear up beneficial.
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