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  1. #251
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    What about possibly bringing event items back each holiday, but they can only be purchased on the mogstation until the next time the holiday comes around? In addition, make the event items unsellable on the mb (future ones, not ones currently up for sale) and if the person that purchased the item is no longer joined to the estate the furniture is used in, it's placed on the local storage npc (like what happens with furniture when a house is demolished). This would mean the person using the furniture would either need to purchase from the mogstation, be gifted the mogstation code or actually be around for the event. For most of the clothing items trading isn't really an issue since most of those have always been untradable. Being that housing has been such a mess with this game, I don't think it's unreasonable that a lot of people never picked up some of the event furniture figuring they had no chance at a house and thus no use for storing the furniture.

    In addition how about after a decently large portion of time (1/2 - 1 year) mogstation exclusives stay on the mogstation but are also obtainable via gameplay in appropriate areas. Maybe there's a low drop chance for the manderville outfit for example in all of the manderville related trials. Maybe the moogle mount has a low drop chance from mog ex or even an obscene amount of currency from the moogle beast tribe? This gives players that don't want to face a long grind or rng the opportunity to still purchase it and allows people to purchase it earlier than the in-game obtainment availability as added value, while still giving people the chance to earn these items by playing the game.
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  2. #252
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    as far as lines go - they already crossed that with the last Hildebrand quest. In-game reward for the quest was zero - now go and buy the outfit on the cash shop.
    The tattered male-only outfit of an already existing outfit you get at the end of the 2.5 Hildibrand quest that's really just a reskin of crafting gear?
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  3. #253
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    as far as lines go - they already crossed that with the last Hildebrand quest. In-game reward for the quest was zero - now go and buy the outfit on the cash shop. I do agree, they are having a lend of us with the prices. I'm getting sick of the pay to play to pay mentality. They shouldn't be releasing any new "optional" items exclusive to the cash shop without providing a way to earn them in game, and they never should have. (this might be as simple as trading in-game tokens or points or providing new related quests, whatever.) They have now stepped WAY over the mark with the app - you pay the normal subscription, then pay for the app - to get the opportunity to pay to access the things the app provides? I'm getting dizzy.
    So you'd rather the exclusive items never existed then?
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  4. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    So you'd rather the exclusive items never existed then?
    We can't know they never would have existed unless we have access to an alternative timeline in which the cash shop did not exist. While they may have stated otherwise, companies often make these types of statements to reassure customers of the choices made. I find similar merit in companies being taken over and the former ceo reassuring clients that no changes are being made and all staff is being kept on.
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 04-27-2018 at 03:27 PM.

  5. #255
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    We can't know they never would have existed unless we have access to an alternative timeline in which the cash shop did not exist.
    Quick, someone summon an Astrologian to use the Arrow Card, but make it backwards.

    But, on a more serious note. I imagine that some might not exist if the NA/EU/JP didn't have the cash shop. The Korean/Chinese exclusives would stay there and they'd have no reason to bring them over if they were paid for by their separate cash shops that we don't have access to and by right, we'd have no business having access either. Also, things like the Eternal Bonding Ceremony may not be feasible since you can't enter a credit card number while in-game, unless they make it priced by Gil which may just increase the RMT sales so people can afford their roleplay wedding fantasies or just for the reward items/bonuses. I doubt that if the Eternal Bonding Ceremony was priced in Gil that it would be cheap like 20,000 or 100,000. It would probably be on par with housing costs since both pieces of content are optional to players and not necessarily needed outright. There would still be a free package, but Passion may be 2 or 3 mil, with Devotion being 10 mil for example.

    It's almost a double-edge sword, we could have no Mogstation at all and make everything purchased via in-game through Gil (I don't want to say Achievement Points for all items because not everyone can do every single achievement in this game and everyone has varying degrees of stockpiled points), but it may increase the RMT practices as well because people will want the Gil lickety-split to buy what they want right away which could incur the wrath of even more bots.

    As for the minions, emotes, mounts and other items, they could be added via achievement points or through Gil and again, if it's the Gil option, then they would just be fueling the RMT practices more possibly. It's just too hard to tell, but there are consequences for everything somehow. Even if the Mogstation didn't exist and things were done a different way, it probably still wouldn't be a perfect, flawless solution.

    This is just a generalized theory though, so just food for thought.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 04-27-2018 at 03:44 PM.

  6. #256
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    - All the stuff you said, but won't fit here because character limit is still a thing. -
    There's still the possibility of bringing them over with promotional events as some items were, although that worked out better for some regions than others. Considering the promotions, I wonder how much (if at all) SE has to pay to license that stuff.
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  7. #257
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    There's still the possibility of bringing them over with promotional events as some items were, although that worked out better for some regions than others. Considering the promotions, I wonder how much (if at all) SE has to pay to license that stuff.
    I imagine it could be somewhat costly, because like anywhere, if a certain region of the world created it and another region wants to sell or spread it around, it's only fair for the original designers/developers to siphon a portion of the sales. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese/Korean stuff didn't already get a portion of the sales themselves come to think of it from our Mogstation....that could be part of the licensing contract for all we know. It wouldn't surprise me if China/Korea has to do the same for some of our stuff as well. I never thought about that until now, wow.

    I imagine exclusive content not developed for the NA/EU/JP would go through the same kind of licensing procedures that anime probably does from Japan to all of the viable regions that it's usually sold in, and some titles are not released or banned in certain countries too. Some licensees can be really stingy too.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 04-27-2018 at 04:04 PM.

  8. #258
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    There's still the possibility of bringing them over with promotional events as some items were, although that worked out better for some regions than others. Considering the promotions, I wonder how much (if at all) SE has to pay to license that stuff.
    You’re right that they could have done a promotion; but they would have to do one that isn’t a complete disaster for EU like the Maid/Butler Attire one was in order for it to be a successful promotion. No shady magazines and required selfies. However, it’s likely that the Chinese/Korean exclusives would have stayed in China and Korea since they were commissioned and made specifically for those countries, and were brought here only by demand and because SE could also charge for them like they did in China/Korea.
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  9. #259
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    Some people have more money than sense, and cash shop stuff is priced accordingly. But hey, it's their money, their business.

    I still haven't seen anything in the cash shop that's a 'must have' item though.
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    Personally I think events rewards should've been added back to the events vendor each time, it would've led events to be more alive for ppl that missed them or so I think
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