Ninja confuses me

[Neela]

So I have to ask are ninjas not strong in end-game or something? Because honestly either i'm blind or I hardly see rogues in dungeons or raids. Not nearly as bad as monks, but they seem about as rare as machinists.

So is there some major reason you don't see many in the ques? Or am I just worried for nothing?

Yeah that is the only thing I don't like about this game. I don't do the party finder mainly because I get enough elitism and snobbish behavior at work. I don't need it in my mmos, and if I ever got kicked from a group because of a parser or class I like play...It would probably kill one of the only two nights I get to enjoy the game.

What happened to playing a game for the social and fun of it over bragging rights?

I totally can feel ya... running with a mid core static which is trying to find their way to hardcore - im more or less the only one of my grp who doesn't care numbers, bis, grp comps etc. that much. I get discussions here and there why not giving the 110% in endgame but I do – just not in "raiding"... the main problem asking for job qualities is that the community usually defines "endgame" by raiding, so if people like you ask for cls/systems/skills/qualities most of them will answer based on raid-relavance. That being said like everybody else mentioned before Nins popularity in "endgame" is grp support: nearly every real static got his own private Nin cause its the base of your grp-overall dmg.

Looking at pve that advantage decreases a lot, cause no other content need that kind of grp synergy and the fact alone that you can't plan your buffs in detail with randoms like you can with your static makes the cls less relevant out of raiding.

...but like Exil said just play what ever you like most especially in pve - I played Nin in HW pve and it was hella fun, tried it for raiding and failed pretty hard... Nins are 2 different worlds for me in both endgames. For me its hella fun to jump around like Hemmy on coke totally free swapping between mudras and melee combos all the time in dngs, primal farming, fates etc yaahh - its refreshing & fast and you can spontaneously react to nearly every situation...

...but being the core of your raiding-grps overall dmg, focusing more on timed trick attacks and smoke, always using the strongest mudras (wayne all the others...) and stacking to fix positions cause of massiv aoe-phases/mechanics was like putting its spirit & character in chains... and was killing everything I love about this cls : /

so yeah its up to you if your Ninja goes for your endgame or theirs ^^