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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
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    It depends from player to player. When I do Rabanastre (and other raids), I already only Greed on anything I can roll on (and will likely do the same for Pharos at Ridorana... but only for Caster/Striking gear and it depends on the stats), as I either already have Savage gear, Mendacity gear and/or Anemos gear for the Job I'm gearing up (didn't take long for me to gear up my alt, which has now become my main). Assuming Eureka Pagos will continue upgrading armour, I imagine those will cap at i360... or maybe i370? That'll certainly make Ridorana gear seem irrelevant a month after release (though people will still have to run it and Rabanastre for the coins).

    It's because of my assumption with Eureka Pagos that I'm just sitting in the 'don't really care' camp.
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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    It depends from player to player. When I do Rabanastre (and other raids), I already only Greed on anything I can roll on (and will likely do the same for Pharos at Ridorana... but only for Caster/Striking gear and it depends on the stats), as I either already have Savage gear, Mendacity gear and/or Anemos gear for the Job I'm gearing up (didn't take long for me to gear up my alt, which has now become my main). Assuming Eureka Pagos will continue upgrading armour, I imaginethose will cap at i360... or maybe i370? That'll certainly make Ridorana gear seem irrelevant a month after release (though people will still have to run it and Rabanastre for the coins).

    It's because of my assumption with Eureka Pagos that I'm just sitting in the 'don't really care' camp.
    This does not address anything I said.
    1. System currently (to be outdated in 4.3) is easier to gear alt jobs then the proposed 4.3 changes. reason? Because of the weekly lock out. if a healer or w/e does not need on the item, it is free to go with 6/5/3 (or w/e people) with the proposed greed wide, winning is less likely

    For outdated content, you go the job you need the glam for, to actually win something vs people botting greed for seals.

    2. Proof of Japanese playerbase asking for this

    How do we know the development team is making this change just because they feel it is better? There is no benefit to this change what so ever. The development team is so out of touch of the user base they might as well be on mars.
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    This does not address anything I said.
    1. System currently (to be outdated in 4.3) is easier to gear alt jobs then the proposed 4.3 changes. reason? Because of the weekly lock out. if a healer or w/e does not need on the item, it is free to go with 6/5/3 (or w/e people) with the proposed greed wide, winning is less likely

    For outdated content, you go the job you need the glam for, to actually win something vs people botting greed for seals.

    2. Proof of Japanese playerbase asking for this

    How do we know the development team is making this change just because they feel it is better? There is no benefit to this change what so ever. The development team is so out of touch of the user base they might as well be on mars.
    Actually it's in the Digest.
    We’re planning to set the loot rule for all alliance raids to “Greed Only” starting in Patch 4.3. We originally intended the alliance raid rewards to be a means for players to obtain gear for their secondary jobs; however, it is difficult for players to participate on these other jobs while wearing lower item level gear. This leads to many simply having to go as their main jobs which makes them unable to hit Need on the items they really wanted, resulting in needing to run the content multiple times. To resolve this issue, we have decided to limit the loot rule to “Greed Only,” making it possible for players to join as their main jobs, while being able to obtain gear for their secondary jobs.

    With that said, we will be reading over community feedback when deciding if we will continue this approach or not in the future.
    And reading that it does seem to match what I heard about JP.
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