New Loot System for Raids from 4.3 on

[Cold_Raven]

The tanks themselves are going to be the most impacted due to the fact that the need option wont be there and will be rolling Greed along with the rest of the party. even though the loot lockout will perhaps alleviate the issue but this idea of getting rid of the need option is really dumb.

I main tank, and it will help me when I tank.

1 - Because I main tank, I don't need any gear from the 24-man raid for my tank. My tank purchases highest-tome gear which can (eventually) be upgraded beyond 24-man-raid-level-gear anyway.
2 - I am now free to roll (and have a better chance at getting) gear for my 2 alts - Monk and Scholar.
3 - I usually go DPS in 24-man raids just so I have a chance at getting gear for my Monk.
4 - I can now tank the raid anyway, and have an equal chance at getting gear for my alt classes.

So, I wouldn't worry about how this will "affect tanks."
You do have a point that a super-casual-tank-main or someone looking for gear for their alt-tank will have a harder time (rolling against none to now rolling against 7 others).
And I agree.
I just think this the original scenario had it's ups-and-downs, and this new scenario has it's ups-and-downs. I'm willing to see how it goes and see if it's better overall instead of just worse for one very specific situation.

I still have my own general reservations about the system:

1 - Tanks are generally not-in-demand for 24-man raids. It's almost always DPS (and sometimes healers) that have the fastest q for the 24-man raids. Tanks usually have the slowest q for these instances. Therefore, I'll likely still run as Monk anyway. But we'll see.
2 - When rolling on a piece of gear, there are ALWAYS 7 other potential-rollers now. Instead of maybe 1 or 2 to beat. That just seems, well, more difficult to get what you're looking for. Regardless of class/role choice. With lockout, though, this will make people choose when to roll and when not to. So, really, maybe it won't be too bad?

At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot and see what it feels like.

[Tint]

So, I wouldn't worry about how this will "affect tanks."

i am main tank too. i don't really play any other classes, so i don't need that greed option at all. i like to mix the 24 man raid gear with the tomestone gear, depending on the stats. and of course new glamour gear for my tank is also always nice.

this change will affect me 100% negatively and there is nothing positive about it.

the only positive thing is that there is relic armor now... but considering how long it took them to implement the relics, this change of the 24 man raid loot will hurt again in 5.1, when the relic armor isn't an option...

[whiskeybravo]

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You post kind of contradicts itself in a few areas. Understandable IMO because it's easy to have mixed feelings about how it will affect getting drops. The main problem is there are usually a few pieces more desirable than others, pieces that could be "upgrades" compared to even the 370 stuff due to secondary stat differences. (for example, BRD/MCH headpiece from Rab comes to mind since 340 gear had skill speed, it was basically considered BiS at 330) - so any pieces like this that are desirable will be the most difficult ones to get since you'll likely have most people rolling on them. That's where it really hurts that you can't go on that actual class to try and guarantee you get it if it drops (obviously still have to compete with duplicate jobs).