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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    So since there is no official rank for savage does that mean savage also has no win thus even if they introduce gear with stats or something else that just give an advantage its not P2W?
    From the game PoV yes, but the community made its official and universally shared race from the very beginning, so you can't really ignore it when adding things to the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    People can and will create their own goals..and if someone else can reach this goal faster than them because of retainers than the one that created their own goal is in an disadvantage.
    You'd still know mostly nothing about how other people progress in this goal. For all you know, the servers can already have dozens of characters with capped gils on every chracter and retainers, that already have no impact on the goal you set for yourself. Besides, as opposed to new items that get released every patch, racing for gils doesn't have a "starting point" apart from the moment you loging for the first time. So, if that was a shared race, coming to the game late is a handicap by itself.

    And, again, if there's no shared race, what ohers do has no impact on what you manage to achieve by yourself and you'll still deserve praise for it.

    EDIT for daily limit :
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    But wouldnt that make it acceptable for SE to put crafter and gathering gear into the mog station that would be comparable with high end crafter gear including materia? Because if there is no race, no winning, then that would be fine right?
    From a pure race point of view, it wouldn't be a big deal, yes.
    BUT, from a commitment point of view, it would send a totally different message. If SE was the one to provide the "achievement" for money without requiring any actual playtime for you, the game itself would diminish the value of your achievement. That's the difference between having more retainers whom you could give more items you obtained to sell thus earning more gils...and buying gils. If you don't already commit to farm gils, the retainer itself will offer nothing.

    That's also why I can't understand people buying Savage runs. Unless you participate in world first race, no one really cares if you cleared it or not, so the only person you cheat is yourself.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 04-19-2018 at 08:36 PM.