Stop with the pay to win advanages for retainers, suggestions on fixes

[Alleo]

If there was some kind of rank for crafters or "gillionaires", I'll wholeheartedly agree with you. Because, at that point, everyone would actually participate in a shared "race".

So since there is no official rank for savage does that mean savage also has no win thus even if they introduce gear with stats or something else that just give an advantage its not P2W?

People can and will create their own goals..and if someone else can reach this goal faster than them because of retainers than the one that created their own goal is in an disadvantage. Again, people disliked the costumes that had nothing to do with PVP in Black desert online because they still gave an advantage even if there was not a real "win" either.

If we take your definition barely anything in games would count as that.

This thread is a joke. :/

And yet it has over 70 likes. More than double the amount that dont see it that way. A forum is a minority of the playerbase but it seems that more people might see this as P2W than those that dont. At least with those that visit the forum. Its sad that something like that is seen as a joke even though its far away from trolling and even have lots of reasonings. You could just simply ignore it, if its just a joke for you.

Heck the problem is that there does not exist one right definition of P2W. I read through some other forums and you can have quite the different interpretations about that. It would just be nice if people at least see that retainers are an advantage. Maybe they are not P2W for you (as in those that dont see it that way) but they are still an advantage that is paid with real money and thus is already something that should (imo) not happen in a sub MMO.