Results 1 to 10 of 70

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    JohnnyDevo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    190
    Character
    J'majha Devo
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    unless this catboy is incredibly well endowed...Im not seeing what couldn't be covered by the battle onesie under the flap.
    This deconstruction isn't even accurate though. You went and cut off a good inch of his outer thigh.

    And that's not even relevant to my main point. You cut the entire crotch out of a 3d model's pants, then cover it up with a little flap from what is technically a different piece of gear.
    There's 3 possibilities:
    - Show the dong for all to see
    - include underwear
    - don't cut the crotch out of the pants.

    Only one of those solutions seems reasonable to me.
    (1)

  2. #2
    Player
    Hestzhyen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    744
    Character
    Hestzhyen Voer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    This deconstruction isn't even accurate though. You went and cut off a good inch of his outer thigh.

    And that's not even relevant to my main point. You cut the entire crotch out of a 3d model's pants, then cover it up with a little flap from what is technically a different piece of gear.
    There's 3 possibilities:
    - Show the dong for all to see
    - include underwear
    - don't cut the crotch out of the pants.

    Only one of those solutions seems reasonable to me.
    In the original artwork, the sensitive bits are covered as part of the top (at least from what I can tell). It's a leotard-like outfit and the bottom half on the legs is separate. Also, this game doesn't even have the concept of dongs- every male character, from the smallest potato to the biggest Roe, has Ken Doll anatomy. There's quite literally nothing to show even if someone wears the leotard part with the front flap fluttering in the wind. Check out the next dude in a tanga you pass by- there is nothing to see. Very last point, if you strip your character down to nothing (male or female) there will be neutral underwear to cover your character up. So there is pretty much no chance of SE accidentally showing ponos to unsuspecting children... they don't even have the thing modeled on any of the races.

    So SE giving us bland pair of pants# 3452982 in the final product is either censorship, someone "fixing" the design because they had different ideas of what it should look like, or a concession to technical limitations. I will make the judgement when I see what the girls get, but right now I'm leaning towards SE's designers thinking "eww man legs GROSS I don't wanna do it" based on what we've seen in the past.
    (3)

  3. #3
    Player
    Rokke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Posts
    1,624
    Character
    Novia Marius
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    This deconstruction isn't even accurate though. You went and cut off a good inch of his outer thigh.

    And that's not even relevant to my main point. You cut the entire crotch out of a 3d model's pants, then cover it up with a little flap from what is technically a different piece of gear.
    There's 3 possibilities:
    - Show the dong for all to see
    - include underwear
    - don't cut the crotch out of the pants.

    Only one of those solutions seems reasonable to me.
    I drew with the line tool so its not going to be 100% accurate, and even if I had my tablet pen with me, anime and correct anatomy do not go hand in hand. I drew a breakdown to show you how the set is supposed to look like, not how its supposed to be broken down in the game. The different colors are supposed to make it easier to "break down" the set: The set is supposed to look like a hooded leotard with chaps worn over it. Due to how this games items slots work, it cannot work as a leotard, but when worn together you get the one piece + chaps appearance they were going for.


    I think its safe to assume the artist did not enter artwork with the intention of going dicks out and that SE did not select artwork with implied exposed dicks. To think otherwise is a bit silly and I honestly can't tell if you don't understand how chaps work or if you're willfully being obtuse.

    to make this clearer:
    the chestpiece is the hooded top down to the crotch flap (think the republican pvp caster gear)
    the bottoms are chaps with a speedo built in (think male moonfaire set)
    (1)
    Last edited by Rokke; 04-16-2018 at 05:31 AM.

  4. #4
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,589
    Character
    Malina Loma
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    Let your imagination go wild for a moment and undress that guy on the left.

    I don't know about you, but I'm currently freaked out by the nondescript blob of flesh existing where his junk should be. If they made that design work on the right, they'd either have to expose the dude's junk (because you can look at angles other than what exist on the art on the left), or include the underwear model on this gear. Because one is impossible and the other is silly, they very reasonably opted to have normal pants.
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    This deconstruction isn't even accurate though. You went and cut off a good inch of his outer thigh.

    And that's not even relevant to my main point. You cut the entire crotch out of a 3d model's pants, then cover it up with a little flap from what is technically a different piece of gear.
    There's 3 possibilities:
    - Show the dong for all to see
    - include underwear
    - don't cut the crotch out of the pants.

    Only one of those solutions seems reasonable to me.
    Uh.. original concept has underwear so.. what is the issue?
    (3)
    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 04-16-2018 at 07:11 PM.

  5. #5
    Player
    JohnnyDevo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    190
    Character
    J'majha Devo
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Uh.. original concept has underwear so.. what is the issue?
    Ahh... I'll have to offer my apologies, it seems I wasn't playing with a full deck. I'm not sure how I never noticed that angle from the back without the arm cape.

    I can still see them going "oh, but if they wear a shirt not from this set, what's covering the groin?" but it seems a bit more unreasonable now.

    One problem I can immediately dream up is that if they make the set dyable under the original concept art and include the bottom "half" of the top as part of the leggings, then the dying situation might be as awkward as anemos monk gear. Still, I think I'm more on the "they didn't have to do that" side of things.
    (2)

  6. #6
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,589
    Character
    Malina Loma
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    Ahh... I'll have to offer my apologies, it seems I wasn't playing with a full deck. I'm not sure how I never noticed that angle from the back without the arm cape.

    I can still see them going "oh, but if they wear a shirt not from this set, what's covering the groin?" but it seems a bit more unreasonable now.

    One problem I can immediately dream up is that if they make the set dyable under the original concept art and include the bottom "half" of the top as part of the leggings, then the dying situation might be as awkward as anemos monk gear. Still, I think I'm more on the "they didn't have to do that" side of things.
    The thing is, we already have the pants concept in the game for males, the Shisui set. There's really no excuse for them to have changed it besides their own personal preference.

    Front:


    Back:
    (4)