I'm deeply troubled

[Warghoul570]

I plan I getting it. Don’t ask me why because I’ve yet to come up with a logical reason of why I seem to want it but I’m going to get it even if it’s on the Mog Station

[RiyahArp]

It's harder to make a man a bit steamy than you think. The problem I think is a lot of male attractiveness is reliant on power, not just showing skin. You have to emphasize the power of the male frame and muscles when you do so, which makes it very hard when you want the guy to show off a lot of flesh. This is why a lot of gear in something like WoW tends to really exaggerate male shoulders via pads, and you also get "costumes" as a form of attractiveness, since certain things have innate power of their own; cowboy, soldier, etc.

It's actually really hard to do, because on the one hand you end up with exaggeration and caricature, and on the other ridiculousness. I mean, it even goes down to how you render the muscles; if it is too chiseled, it can look bad, like the anime Free's male characters and all the little lines around their abs and middle. Another anime that did a very bad job was Pilot Candidate/Candidate for Goddess, which shows you why the devs didn't give the exact same shorts to men as women from fashion report.

[Ayer2015]

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I don't particularly agree with this. The projection of power may be considered from a societal standpoint in some cultures as attractive, however those aspects are separate from normalized standards of male physical attractiveness. I find the positions of many on the forms wanting to apply feminized forms of dress to somehow be sexy on males, which for the majority will not translate. That being said I highly doubt our mmo devs will ever focus on the sexualization of the male form based on both the demographics of the game and those of the dev team. If they were to do so however, you would likely see far more muscularity of the male models and more shirtless/revealed torsos in the male armor models.

[Shurrikhan]

Can I have both options so that I can wear actual pants on my female character?

The amount of scratches one must get on their legs when running through dense foliage... I feel outright bad for her.

[EaMett]

One thing I will note from this thread.

Crotch-less pants and girl's clothing is "sexy" male clothing. I really need to hang out with more gender fluid people or I may be left behind.

On a side note, what I deem "sexy" on men is also missing from the game. I wouldn't mind more clothing that shows off collar bones, or shoulders, or open shirts, or hell I'll even take a closed shirt as I don't recall us having that option either, etc.. I do like my pants to cover crotches though, call me old school.

[IzabelVarosa]

One thing I will note from this thread.

Crotch-less pants and girl's clothing is "sexy" male clothing. I really need to hang out with more gender fluid people or I may be left behind.

its theater. no need to throw shade at people for liking something different than you.

[EaMett]

its theater. no need to throw shade at people for liking something different than you.

Interesting that you construed that as me throwing shade.

[Squintina]

Just sounds to me like SE needs more permanent female costume designers for this game. (and by "For this game", I don't mean mogstation...)

[Ayer2015]

Just sounds to me like SE needs more permanent female costume designers for this game. (and by "For this game", I don't mean mogstation...)

It definitely wouldn't hurt.

[Jib]

I’m going to put this out there. Nothing against you personally.. and nothing against what you are griefing about.
I fully support discussing issues from the game. Gamers trying to make it better .. kudos for that..

But .. titles like this makes this generation of gamers .. a bit “sad”.

“I’m deeply troubled”.. when I read I serious thought it was.. wait for it.. indeed.. something serious..

I apologise .. it might be just me and the way I interpret the English language .. but it did have .. I apologise again...

The only thing I can do is ... /laugh

I’m so sorry...