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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by splinter1545 View Post
    I'm honestly not surprised. SE have been constantly pushing that boundary harder and harder, and yet people still defended them. Now look how far they went.

    What's worse is a majority of the income won't even go back to FF14. It'll just go to their other games being in development.
    We should say "We told you". Does anyone remember when some of us said -multiple times over the years- that they would keep trying to push the line further and further to see how far they can nickel and dime the playerbase? Yet we were called ignorants, and told that we were making a drama and exaggerating. Well, I guess that we can keep letting them put more F2P crap on top of a P2P sub while getting nothing in return (not to mention other "awesome" changes like moving from account wide cash shop stuff to it being single character... and not at a reduced price tag), neither proper improvements to the actual game or the infrastructure (server limitations here, database being in a shitty state from 2.0 there... huh, but if you pay more we can magically fix it for you... for a month). Perhaps once they sell "optional" quests and dungeons/raids, dungeon or raid tokens somewhere, loot and gil boosters, etc., the community will do something about this. But hey! It's optional, right?

    Square-Enix are our buddies. They aren't obviously a business that will try to get as much money as possible, and go as far as customers let them go. /sarcasm
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    We should say "We told you". Does anyone remember when some of us said -multiple times over the years- that they would keep trying to push the line further and further to see how far they can nickel and dime the playerbase? Yet we were called ignorants, and told that we were making a drama and exaggerating.
    I think it's time for me to take an extended break, perhaps leaving entirely, even if it means losing my house. I've been saying the same about their actions for a long time now, but hoped it wouldn't reach this point. It has. I've had enough of their greed. Only way to speak up is with my wallet, so that's what I'm doing. This on top of other details emerging from the LL has turned me off to this game in a big way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I think it's time for me to take an extended break, perhaps leaving entirely, even if it means losing my house. I've been saying the same about their actions for a long time now, but hoped it wouldn't reach this point. It has. I've had enough of their greed. Only way to speak up is with my wallet, so that's what I'm doing. This on top of other details emerging from the LL has turned me off to this game in a big way.
    I'm contemplating leaving 14 for good after this turn of events. Figured I'd at least offer one of my friends my house if I do go. Maybe an idea if you quit as well.
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    splinter1545's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    We should say "We told you". Does anyone remember when some of us said -multiple times over the years- that they would keep trying to push the line further and further to see how far they can nickel and dime the playerbase? Yet we were called ignorants, and told that we were making a drama and exaggerating. Well, I guess that we can keep letting them put more F2P crap on top of a P2P sub while getting nothing in return (not to mention other "awesome" changes like moving from account wide cash shop stuff to it being single character... and not at a reduced price tag), neither proper improvements to the actual game or the infrastructure (server limitations here, database being in a shitty state from 2.0 there... huh, but if you pay more we can magically fix it for you... for a month). Perhaps once they sell "optional" quests and dungeons/raids, dungeon or raid tokens somewhere, loot and gil boosters, etc., the community will do something about this. But hey! It's optional, right?

    Square-Enix are our buddies. They aren't obviously a business that will try to get as much money as possible, and go as far as customers let them go. /sarcasm
    History has proven to repeat itself many times with other developers and publishers. ESO, for example, started pushing how low quantity their updates could be while keeping the same price of said updates. We know have $15 updates that only include 2 dungeons. Don't get me started on how bad the cash shop is.

    XIV is starting to go down a similar path. We'll see if it comes back to bite them in the butt or not.
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