Hi Aviars,

Like I said, we can go around and around all day talking about how exclusive means one thing when talking about one reward, but something totally different when referring to other rewards. That's not something I made up or lied about -- it's a decision made by SE because it's their product and their right. You like to totally gloss over that part yourself, so don't sit there and pound your chest like you're some shining beacon of honesty and purity.

They could've easily said "Top 100 Ranked Players get Exclusive Rewards that can't be obtained in any other way" - yet they didn't. This covers them in case they want to leave the door open in the future to make those things (or something similar) obtainable in other ways in the future. Will they? Who knows. I'm only saying we have precedents to show that they have gone back on their "promises of exclusivity" before. Do I think they should do it again just because they did it in the past? What I think or what you think about whatever isn't relevant, because at the end of the day it all boils down to decisions that are in the best interest of the players, which in turn help to generate more subscriptions.

To be perfectly honest, the way they've handled exclusivity in the past, I think gives players mixed signals. If I order the digital collector's edition of Stormblood, I get "exclusive" things that show that I am a loyal player that supports the development of the game. But even now, I can go into my account, pay $10 and get the collector's edition of ARR even though ARR has been out for years now.

Even if they instituted a practice that handled exclusive items with the choice of "all or nothing", either we'd have everything we want otherwise obtainable in game or on the mog station (increasing revenues and subscriptions), or we'd have nothing (Mog station would be a wasteland). So they pick and choose what remains exclusive, and what does not. It's their prerogative -- we're only making conjectures based on what information we have.

And while we're on that topic, why are PVP rewards some sort of reserved and sanctimonious symbol of skill when other endeavors, that one might argue would require just as much skill or effort, are not? Ultimate Coil aside (because apparently it will always be synced), do you put in any more or less effort than the top 100 people to clear Kefka or any other current raid? If they limited those to the top 100 people in a datacenter to clear it, most people wouldn't even bother -- just like most people don't even bother to PVP because they imagine the rewards are out of reach right from the start.

And I don't know about you, but I feel like PVP needs a fresh influx of hungry players, and dangling a reward that so few can obtain is not the way to encourage that. This is why from the start, I have made the suggestions that I've made. I think we can both agree that neither of us wants to see PVP die out, but it's hanging on by a thread as it is.

Yes, originally I suggested making the original rewards more obtainable by others in time - but I can also see your point of view, that you fought tooth-and-nail to get there and therefore only those in the top 100 should be able to earn that reward.

I think we also agree that for those that make it in the top 100, they should be able to choose from among the available top rewards -- that nothing is barred off from them because the reward itself changed. I think we could also agree that whatever reward they do choose be available account-wide.

If we're being totally honest, I think putting highly sought-after rewards behind such gates with insane requirements and then asking players to slog through broken and/or exploitable content is like promising someone a 4-course meal and then feeding them a brick. By the same token, I don't think that everything should be handed out like candy. Somewhere in the middle would be perfect. Not too much of a boring grind, but not too easy either.

I'd be perfectly happy with an alternative that can be purchased with wolf collars so that you guys have your winning item and other players who want these things have something markedly different. In fact, with regard to the Hellhound, they can make it look exactly like the ones in POTD or the Void Ark and I'd be pleased as punch. Those differ enough from the original Feast rewards, so anyone who cares will notice the difference.

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Seems like someone thinks they are better than they actually think they are. Literally Dunning-Kruger effect right here. Literally "I didn't win but I know I was better than everyone else." You apply that sentiment towards Feast and contests you lost to rationalize your own defeat, how it's not your fault you lost.
I think you misunderstood. I did win. I'm explaining that sometimes, you can pour tons of time and effort into a thing (like ranking in the top 100 or drawing a sophisticated graphic), or you can put less time and effort into another thing (like ranking Gold or Platinum or sketching a thing quickly), and it ends up paying off. Correlation doesn't always imply causation. All I can do is make a request -- just like people have requested bunny suits, moogle suits, 99 totems for a mount -- and maybe it will be honored, maybe it won't.

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First off, the context is clear that these rewards were for the seasons top ranked players. They even say in the blog post in is for RANKING players. Not some randoms that want it because they asked nicely. First example of you selectively ignoring parts of the blog post that contradict your ignorant worldview.
I'm not "some random" -- I actually do PVP, and I enjoy it. In fact, it was the seasonal reward that got me into it in the first place! So the incentive and desire are definitely there. And you know what? If they want to keep those things exclusive for ranked players and give the rest of us something similar but make the items distinctive enough so that anyone who actually cares can see the difference -- I've got no problem with that at all.

Just because someone makes a request doesn't make them wrong. You might not agree with my suggestion or my approach and that's your choice, just as I may not always agree with you. We can pull from different places and sources and hypothesize this or that, and we may be right, or we may be wrong. SE is the one with all the data.

I am not the one who started this thread, just as there are other threads throughout the site and different regions all suggesting the same things (also not started by me). Clearly, the desire is there. We just have to see what action, if any, will be taken in recognition of it.