Bunny outfits for men, not a cryptid!

[Vahlnir]

Sorry if this has already been brought up, but I'm not reading all 15 pages of "I like it," "I hate it" or "It's not what I envisioned" to see if it was mentioned yet:

Game watch interview with Yoshi-P bunny suit bit (in conversation about Edda's dress):

Aside from this, I don't recall any other official word on what was going on with the male bunny suits, but it was never stated here that the male version would be something original and different from the females. Removing a "gender lock" sounds more akin to keeping the original style.

But what I do take from that interview was apparently a big contributing factor for the length of time it took was they delegated it to only their female staff instead of the whole team to work on.

Yeah, nothing official was ever really stated as to the how, but the way they worded it at points could have been interpreted as it potentially resulting in something different than the original design. That and it took a pretty long time for what was essentially a matter of putting the exact same thing on the opposite gender...I can see how it rubbed some people the wrong way.

Tbh, I never really had an interest or care about this to begin with. I'm just glad it's over and done with so now we don't have to hear about it during panels where more important things should be brought up (seriously, whenever I heard someone bring that up last time I died a little inside. Yoshi P also didn't seem to be in the mood to address that either)...but I can see both sides of this, as I've said earlier in this thread.

I'm pretty sure that Yoshi and the devs wanted to get it out of the way so people would stop asking, and people DID ask for some gender equality in gear. Can't ask for much more than a copy/paste solution I suppose.

[Jkap_Goat]

I was thinking... For a now masculine look, equip the bunny ears, wear no shirt, wear those male swimsuit shorts, moogle knecktie? And you can look like a male stripper. my point is, that there's allot of options for glamour in this game to make your own sexy male stripper. Aside from that, is genderlocked which I think it's really cool for people to express their male character in a genderfuild way or expression.

[WilhelmWhite]

Meh. I personally don't have a problem with it. My Roe is ready to rock some fishnets.

[Fredco191]

I don’t mind either.
.....so.... when are we getting it?

[Lauront]

Well grats to those who were asking for it but... what I was hoping for was a Chippendale type outfit, rather than this, which I consider lazy and indicative of their overall stance to more masculine glamours. It could still be achieved through customisation, I guess. I suppose for the guys who wanted some girly options for guys though it works.

Sorry if this has already been brought up, but I'm not reading all 15 pages of "I like it," "I hate it" or "It's not what I envisioned" to see if it was mentioned yet:

Game watch interview with Yoshi-P bunny suit bit (in conversation about Edda's dress):

Aside from this, I don't recall any other official word on what was going on with the male bunny suits, but it was never stated here that the male version would be something original and different from the females. Removing a "gender lock" sounds more akin to keeping the original style.

But what I do take from that interview was apparently a big contributing factor for the length of time it took was they delegated it to only their female staff instead of the whole team to work on.

That's pretty bizarre. Why leave it just to their female staff?

[Lauront]

I was thinking... For a now masculine look, equip the bunny ears, wear no shirt, wear those male swimsuit shorts, moogle knecktie? And you can look like a male stripper. my point is, that there's allot of options for glamour in this game to make your own sexy male stripper. Aside from that, is genderlocked which I think it's really cool for people to express their male character in a genderfuild way or expression.

Crossdressing*

I've revised my stance on gender locks, though. It'd be better if the outfits simply had a masculine/feminine option, and you get to pick how it displays on your char, but this would be a lot more work for the devs. On the other hand, the game has a relatively high sub fee, has a cash shop and charges full price for the game itself, so the excuses for dev laziness are beginning to wear increasingly thin on a number of fronts, compounded by the amount of money poured into dead ends, like Diadem or the very broken Rival Wings, or the rather bare bones Eureka. They're also following the same formula as they did in HW, for SB, so it's not like they're bringing in huge innovations, so where is all this money going? Cross-subsidising other brands? Not a good thing. The game also isn't as hard to design outfits for as, say, WoW, which suffers from more outdated tech and therefore requires more granular manipulation.

Also this "there's options" thing is getting a bit trite. Yes, there are, but why should it be a case of having to mix and match - sometimes imperfectly - for masculine glams, whereas well coordinated feminine ones are often delivered in one piece? And by "feminine" I mean exclusive female gender-locked ones, which are only sometimes unlocked - as they are - for males.

I find their overall stance lazy and I am growing rather bored of it.

[Lukha]

I am not sure how I feel about this. Like, just having the exact same models but wearable by males was pretty much my bare minimum acceptable solution, so this really isn't ideal, but on the other hand, given SE's track record with male glams I was honestly expecting to get generic recycled pant model #4875, so I'm somehow both disappointed and relieved at the same time.

It does beg the question of how they can bear to release an item like this, with fishnets under a thong, for males when they couldn't manage to reign in their disgust enough to allow males to wear a relatively modest pair of jean shorts, though. Is that the next fight? Campaigning for more variety in pants options and some decent shorts that aren't class-locked?

I have a lot of other thoughts about how misleading the information we were given about the development of the male version was, and how long it took to make slightly less than half a set when they managed to churn out 2-3 female-exclusive sets in the same time, but I think most of them have been covered a few times in this thread so I'm gonna let it go for now.

[Lauront]

It does beg the question of how they can bear to release an item like this, with fishnets under a thong, for males when they couldn't manage to reign in their disgust enough to allow males to wear a relatively modest pair of jean shorts, though. Is that the next fight? Campaigning for more variety in pants options and some decent shorts that aren't class-locked?

Maybe they're hoping it'll be so obviously awful that people will never ask for it again lol

[Vivi_Bushido]

Things like this irritates me about this community. I just don't get it...

You preach and demanded for bunny suits for two years and when you finally get it, you complain that it's not different enough? I mean, isn't this what you guys wanted?

If they made a Thav Dress and Wedding Dress for males are you going to complain it's not different enough as well?

Seriously, this is a victory in the right direction. This proves that the devs heard your call. But complaining like this is going to make the devs feel like you guys are ungrateful and why bother with other requests. Sorry, but coding doesn't work like (check box male availability and it'll magically snap on). They have to make outfits from scratch to fit the different sizes of the genders. The suit for female Au Ra won't just magically scale to male Au Ra.

Arguments about lazy designs and having to wait are irrelevant when this is EXACTLY what was requested. It probably took so long so that they could enable the option for players who already own the female version can fantasia to male and not have to repurchase a separate version of it, along with the fact that they had better things to do than to work on a glamour that a small minority of the community even want's to wear. Which is why it was on a low priority list to begin with.

You guys should be happy that you finally got something you fought two years for. To me, this just proves that those complaining just wanted to be snow flakes all along and didn't truly want equality.

[Theodric]

Maybe they're hoping it'll be so obviously awful that people will never ask for it again lol

Well, the issue now is that they've proven in the past to be rather selective about feedback. Some people will cheer this on and request more similar items in the future. Those of us who request things like additional facial hair options, meanwhile, will likely continue to be without a meaningful voice.