Cutscene skipping "peer pressure" What is it? Why does it exist? Why care?

[illgot]

If it's new content, I'm watching the cutscenes. S'just 10-30 seconds of a dungeon/boss intro and that's it. I also don't mind waiting as it means my cooldowns will probably be up for my opener.

I think some of the MSQ cut scenes can be around 20-30 minutes, longer than it takes to run the instance. Praetorian is the worse offender.

With the ability to watch most cut scenes in the inn, I think it's selfish to force people to sit there for 30 minutes watching a cut scene they have no interest in. It is one of the reasons I no longer queue up for MSQ roulette, which means one less tank in the queue.

[Luin]

I think some of the MSQ cut scenes can be around 20-30 minutes, longer than it takes to run the instance. Praetorian is the worse offender.

With the ability to watch most cut scenes in the inn, I think it's selfish to force people to sit there for 30 minutes watching a cut scene they have no interest in. It is one of the reasons I no longer queue up for MSQ roulette, which means one less tank in the queue.

There are no cutscenes that are over 10 minutes long after Castrum and Praetorium. Instances after that have cutscenes after the boss is killed and the rest of the players are free to leave. The only exceptional cutscene length after CM/Prae that I can think of is Shiva or Ramuh, both of which are still trial fights in ARR.


I've stopped queuing for MSQ roulette as well. While the XP is nice, especially for 60-61, Poetics are practically worthless, and it's just... it's just too much. We've been doing this dungeon for years. It wasn't good at launch. It especially isn't good now. The cutscenes are ugly and low quality, no voice acting (and what little there is (Gaius) is horribly out of place), excessive and unnecessary (why do I need a 30 second shot panning over a pipeline, which comes literally less than 2 minutes after another 3+ minute cutscene). This isn't even considering how awful the dungeon is mechanically. People think it's only speedrun now because of gear, which is a lie. It was speedrun just as confidently and commonly back when people were in i70 darklight and i90 mythology gear.

The rewards you would need to give to make CM/Prae worth it would need to be ridiculous. Like a guaranteed level.

The best thing they could do is to just make CM/Prae FUN. They need to invest actual effort, something they're obviously not used to. And it's just not going to happen. We can't get consistently good new content (cough Alte Roite cough) they're definitely not going to go back and fix the biggest non-technical mistake ARR ever had.

They will never fix CM/Prae and they will never fix the 2.0-2.55 quest lines.

It wouldn't be difficult to simply delete most post-2.0 msq except Dreams of Ice and make everything else obtainable through GC/Nedrick/Urianger, and to just min. ilvl sync CM/Prae and make it a 4man.

But they wont.

they'd emote /doze or /pray or /poke or /pet me (I was also a lala for a while) after watching CS, which I found rude.

It's an emote. Get over yourself. Do you honestly think it's normal for every little thing to upset you so much?

[Fhaerron]

When I was new a few years ago I skipped every single cutscene that wasn't solo because I hate to waste others time. After the run was over I went back to my home city and watch it in the Inn, afterwards I continued the story.

It's one of the thing I hate the most, the constant wait before the barrier goes down and you can proceed. It's why I no longer run Main Scenario Roulette.

I don't blame the newbies though, it's a bad design SE has implemented for unknown reasons. Maybe it was their plan all along to milk more money from selling MSQ potions if you see what they did with MSQ roulette now.

I've played a handful of other MMO's (quality ones though like WoW, RIFT, GW, etc) not all those numerous of Asian F2P trash and that was never an issue in those. Not sure how it's in those other F2P games though as I don't play that.

[Fhaerron]

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Garuda is pretty long too.

I'm pretty sure Alliance Raid Roulette gives more then MSQ.
Especially in that time to XP ratio but even just in raw XP numbers too.

I do 50/60, LVLR (Levelling Roulette), ARR(Alliance Raid Roulette) & Trial with the XPASS (Adventure Squadron XP Scroll) on my LVL 60+ BRD and I get about 1lvl +3/4 of the next.

[duvvvv]

when I was starting leveling up ACN and CNJ back in 2014-15, I've experienced several times PUG telling me to hurry up if not directly in chat, they'd emote /doze or /pray or /poke or /pet me (I was also a lala for a while) after watching CS, which I found rude. hence, when I notice the party likes to speed things up (big pulls, ignoring treasure chests etc.) even if I told them I'm new, my brain would tell me to skip CS and just watch it at the inn or at the FC house. sure I wasn't kicked but who likes the feeling like you're slowing down the party or being made fun at? eventually, I chose to only clear dungeons with FC-mates. when HW launched that's how I've managed to clear most content because I know my FC encourages its members to experience the game in all its glory (no need to read/watch guides!). obviously, anxiety played a big part in this, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.


3 years later I hardly care anymore if people won't let me watch CS, I actually got locked out in Castrum Abania not too long ago because party pulled the last boss without me (and mind you, this was PF not DF), I just told them "I did say I was new", and the tank apologized so that's done. but I wish in general FFXIV players are more considerate, and the CS be less "intrusive" or the whole dungeon experience more streamlined. it works when the boss pauses midway with a monologue (gCDs reset, healing, rezzing whatnot), why can't we have more of that instead? but seriously, to new players, watch the CS and enjoy the game at your own pace.

[SannaR]

It's the whole the CS takes longer than the fight bit. Along with the few times there is one at the end before you exit and people are waiting for a watcher to be done for loot rolls like ifrit hard. Prea takes about 45mins to do unsynced now. Probably a little longer synced just for very little of fight. Then there is the whole did they d/c during the loading question where you don't know if they're watching a CS or not. I normally see this on 24 mans and so now you could be wasting 23 other people's time. Specially if you're taking a while to load in and then watch the opening CS. Which makes people think they can go get a snack or to the bathroom.

[Luin]

Garuda is pretty long too.

I'm pretty sure Alliance Raid Roulette gives more then MSQ.
Especially in that time to XP ratio but even just in raw XP numbers too.

I do 50/60, LVLR (Levelling Roulette), ARR(Alliance Raid Roulette) & Trial with the XPASS (Adventure Squadron XP Scroll) on my LVL 60+ BRD and I get about 1lvl +3/4 of the next.

Garuda is 2.0 (unless you mean EX), and like Shiva/Ramuh it's less of an issue as the fight itself is so short.

[Kayiko]

Basically they fixed a lot of the cut scenes issues in newer content. Meaning that most content that has cut scenes in it after 3.x has the major points either before entering the dungeon/raid/fight and not during them. All there is now is the short dungeon intro, boss intro, and victory ones. And most lack even text boxes.
And it depends on who you are running content with. Some dislike waiting. Others don't care. I'll wait, I don't always like it but I want my whole team because it makes the fights easier.

[Sapphire_Dianta]

I've experienced several times PUG telling me to hurry up if not directly in chat, they'd emote /doze or /pray or /poke or /pet me (I was also a lala for a while) after watching CS, which I found rude.

Oh... I feel kinda guilty now... Whenever I'm in a duty with a sprout who's watching a cutscene, I'll always give them a /pet as a way of reassurance; that them watching the cutscene is perfectly fine with me, and that I'll wait for them. I didn't even consider that they'd might interpret that as me rushing them.

Back to the topic; I definitely do feel pressured to skip everything, even if a lot of that pressure is caused my my own anxiety. If someone else in my party is watching a cutscene, though, I'll always wait for them. If it's a boss cutscene and an impatient tank charges in, that's fine. But I'm sticking with my sprout buddy. Unlike a lot of people, I take my Mentor status seriously!

[Soupa]

Just watch the cutscenes, no ones gonna die. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯