It's about time Shield oath and Grit become Abilities instead of Spells. (off-GCD)

[shao32]

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as Saeno say my point is WAR's mitigation is just as powerful as PLD/DRK without inner beast, looking at the data of logs you can see no WAR use inner beast ever and they mitigate as much as the other 2, then is the coment as WAR is more weaker that the other 2 on deliverance and my point is they are not bcs a proper WAR use holmgang like a sentinel/shadow wall due the short recast, with this means WAR take the full hit often but dont die and in the end the data show they take some more damage to the other 2 but is not about WAR mitigate less, is about WAR abuse more from holgang and holmgang only prevent you dead.

so i know this discussion is only about tank stances but being part of our defensive kit is hard to dont spread a bit, so sorry for that Saeno but was necesary to explain my point, with is leaving the fact that WAR's kit is stronger like the PLD/DRK kit and more versatile we end with the extras here our tank stances, with grit/shield being unfairly taxed and defiance being just a ToB+Conva+snap agro CD every 90 seconds, and on top of that we have inner beast with is never used even less that heavensward bcs they get rampart.

I mean, you could make Clemency a 60-sec CD instead of being a spammable spell? Other than that it's hard to compare them. I feel like Clemency was only given to PLD to replace what they had with Stoneskin.

no please, this will lead us to a problem of powercreep and we are already overflowing that line, WAR kit despite how good feels (or not, depending of you preferences) WAR have a serious problem of lack of weakness making it excell on every field, my opinion is clemency is fine as it is and WAR have to get more limits in for of increse the recast or meaby gauge cost but thats other theme and my personal opinion.