Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
I will name one of those situations: When the devs do their testing before releasing content. The whole 'healer DPS isn't factored into clears' thing. Don't get me wrong. I never said healers not DPSing isn't a problem. It just doesn't lead to anything game breaking if they chose not to do it, nor is it as big of an issue as everyone makes it. I specifically stated that the problem is the design of content (and to a further extent, the way healers are designed), and the attitudes of the playerbase.
YoshiP said that was only the case if everyone is already fully geared. If not (ie: when Savage tiers first come out), the DPSers have less gear than the devs test with and healer DPS is mandatory to make up the difference.

So yeah, it literally makes the difference between clearing and not clearing in that case. Fairly important difference.

Both Tanks and DPS jobs are designed in a way that they always have to be pushing something.
No they're not. Tanks can easily sit idle for long periods and hold enmity if they want to. One of the workarounds for the level disparity XP penalty in Eureka relies on it (the flash only PLD tank).

The difference is not in the roles. The difference is in the community. The tank community doesn't think standing around doing nothing is acceptable. For some reason, a subset of the healer community does. That's the core of the 3000 pages of this endless argument.

If you can tell me why it's okay for a healer to stand around doing nothing and not okay for any other role to do so, then the whole thing would end. Nobody's been able to do that... because it's indefensible.