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    Raldo's Avatar
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    Raldo Volca
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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned DRG as another job that would have trouble, from a lore perspective, allowing squad members to be the job. The lore seems adamant that there is only ever one "Azure Dragoon" (are there other dragoon colors?) except in a small handful of cases where there are two. Even if there were other dragoon job stones, you know Ishgard has that stuff on lockdown.

    Personally, I'm fine with hand-waving away the ability for squad members to be jobs, similar to the retainer argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    The most basic, and probably cynical, reason is probably because this won't improve performance at all.
    Counterpoint: There are a variety of important actions that are job-specific (and EVERYTHING above 50 is job-specific) and as such, not available to classes. If they plan on continuing to raise the cap for the squad, they should really allow them to be jobs instead of classes, as they will continue to be less and less useful as the levels increase. Tank stances, Blizzard 3, anything involving Aetherflow stacks... all job actions. Perhaps they wouldn't need the AI to be able to spam the same actions over and over and over again if they actually gave them access to the same kit that players have.
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    Last edited by Raldo; 03-31-2018 at 06:29 AM.

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    basketofseals's Avatar
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    Verrine Mercer
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    Samurai Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    To all the BLMs out there: Could you imagine not having Bliz3? I feel bad for our THM squad members.
    They can feel sorry for themselves on the bench they've been put on since the beginning.

    Have you payed close attention to what they do? More abilities isn't going to make them more effective. They aren't even effective with the abilities they have. There's a reason ARC is the god-king of squadron members even after the engage nerf. The other classes spend too much time doing nothing. They only have a few dead abilities: invigorate, diversion, tactician, and refresh. I don't think I've ever seen them use second wind, and they thankfully use tactician and refresh infrequently. On the other hand I've seen my ROG go true north, bloodbath, shadewalker, diversion, blood bath, second wind, and by the time he finished the mob was already dead.
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    Player Aquaslash's Avatar
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    Zinnia Higana
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned DRG as another job that would have trouble, from a lore perspective, allowing squad members to be the job. The lore seems adamant that there is only ever one "Azure Dragoon" (are there other dragoon colors?) except in a small handful of cases where there are two. Even if there were other dragoon job stones, you know Ishgard has that stuff on lockdown.

    Personally, I'm fine with hand-waving away the ability for squad members to be jobs, similar to the retainer argument.
    I'm pretty sure Dragoons are the elite Ishgardian military, and the Azure Dragoon is just the one allowed to use the Nidhogg eye.
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    Willig Rowde
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    I'm pretty sure Dragoons are the elite Ishgardian military, and the Azure Dragoon is just the one allowed to use the Nidhogg eye.
    Yeah, it's been awhile, but wasn't that pretty much the DRG class story in HW, we were taking a pupil under our wing to train to be a DRG... I mean, she jumps, right?

    On topic, I'm in favor of Squadron members gaining access to Job Crystals. As others have said, if my retainer can do it the I don't see any reason why my squadron shouldn't be able to either.
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