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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    Yes, they can become everything beside crafter I think xD
    OK, I dunno cause I only have one "job" retainer and have never bothered with any other job for them since it's all the same.

    So.. if Fetchy McGogetstuff can be a WHM I don't see why someone who actually adventures with you cant =]

    Also the other people in your party while you're doing raids and dungeons are technically canon, so there's usually a WHM or two in there.
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    Xitra Lunrise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    OK, I dunno cause I only have one "job" retainer and have never bothered with any other job for them since it's all the same.

    So.. if Fetchy McGogetstuff can be a WHM I don't see why someone who actually adventures with you cant =]

    Also the other people in your party while you're doing raids and dungeons are technically canon, so there's usually a WHM or two in there.
    Your right, so this argument is basically settled.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Also the other people in your party while you're doing raids and dungeons are technically canon, so there's usually a WHM or two in there.
    That you take other adventurers with you into (most) dungeons is canon. That they bear soul stones is not. There is exactly one non-Padjali WHM in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    That you take other adventurers with you into (most) dungeons is canon. That they bear soul stones is not. There is exactly one non-Padjali WHM in the world.
    You're able to "handwave" away that your retainer is a WHM on player convenience but not for squadron members? Their adventures are quite non-canon as far as I know as well considering that the stories that play while you do your squad runs of course cannot be canon since you've run those adventures already. I don't see any reason it cannot be done or shouldn't be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    can you not make your retainer a WHM?
    That's just something we have to hand-wave away as a player convenience feature, because the only reason they let retainers take jobs is so you can put your hand-me-down gear on them instead of having to buy or craft class gear.
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    Nighthawky Mlmlxix
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    I love doing the squadron dungeon runs. I believe squadrons should be 1. elevated to JOB status since they are max level to 60 & have level 60 abilities. 2. Give them some level 60 dungeons. There several level 60 dungeons that are not mechanic heavy that the squadron can get through. I took my squadrons through all the dungeons they have given them so far.
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    Well TBH, the flames do have Summoners in their ranks so I believe it might be possible, maybe they will restrict some jobs to certain GC who knows
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Well TBH, the flames do have Summoners in their ranks so I believe it might be possible, maybe they will restrict some jobs to certain GC who knows
    I think it would be a little silly to only allow some jobs and not others. I think we can all agree that if they wish to push this forward, it'll be a segregation of gameplay and story.

    If we're concerned about lore most jobs wouldn't be an issue, but I can't imagine a very plausible excuse for WHM and BLM. BLM is....dangerous to say the least. It would take a lot of dedication and careful research for being able to use those arts, and I think it would be quite alarming if BLMs were just suddenly out and about advertising their skills as adventurers considering the stigma attached to them and the Sixth Umbral Era. WHM's are even more farfetched considering it's power bestowed by the elementals ,and it's something the Padjal are groomed for from birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    I think it would be a little silly to only allow some jobs and not others. I think we can all agree that if they wish to push this forward, it'll be a segregation of gameplay and story.

    If we're concerned about lore most jobs wouldn't be an issue, but I can't imagine a very plausible excuse for WHM and BLM. BLM is....dangerous to say the least. It would take a lot of dedication and careful research for being able to use those arts, and I think it would be quite alarming if BLMs were just suddenly out and about advertising their skills as adventurers considering the stigma attached to them and the Sixth Umbral Era. WHM's are even more farfetched considering it's power bestowed by the elementals ,and it's something the Padjal are groomed for from birth.
    Tbh if you complete the WHM storyline from SB there's a hint of change coming to the WHM community also in a way BLM story is trying to fix their reputation too.
    Personally I think that making some jobs exclusive to some GCs might give them a bit of flavor especially if the increase in stats is substantial compared to normal ones, ofc they would have need to rebalance the entire thing to make it work, like how affinities works only with class and not jobs.
    And who knows maybe you can later add missions that allows you to teach your squadron the ways of a job not from the GC you are affiliated with to unlock it.
    Frankly the sky is the limit
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Tbh if you complete the WHM storyline from SB there's a hint of change coming to the WHM community also in a way BLM story is trying to fix their reputation too.
    Honestly, I think freezing how the jobs are earned in time is a bad idea. We learned them, we can teach them to others. The scholar storyline has already implied this.

    However what needs to happen is to take a page from how the companions are implemented in FFXV, and rather make the player able to tell them to call strategy, or have the AI player call strategy before each fight. That would at least make it less stupid. Like the way it's implemented now, is simply too dumb for complex mechanics.
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