What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Divinemights]

No it's not. I listed a bunch of things you do differently depending on your level. But it seems you ignored half my post.

No, don't tell them when you are getting way more protean crystals with proper party.
Also don't tell them that it is possible to get more than 1,300 protean crystals within 60 mins if you choose to do chain party instead of NM train.
Please also don't tell them that you are only need to do NM when you are working on relic armor.
This thread only allows one voice and one voice only.
If you are offering advise, you are labelled as Diadem 3.0 lover.
If you are explaining the mechanics, you are labelled as White Knight.
If you said you likes Eureka, apparently you are suffering Sunk-Cost Fallacy.

We also need not to remind them that the best way to show a game company that player base don't like a content is "not doing that content"
Please also not to remind them that only way to punish a subscribed mmorpg is un-subscribe like we did to Blizzard with WoD

[Vstarstruck]

No, don't tell them when you are getting way more protean crystals with proper party.
Also don't tell them that it is possible to get more than 1,300 protean crystals within 60 mins if you choose to do chain party instead of NM train.
Please also don't tell them that you are only need to do NM when you are working on relic armor.
This thread only allows one voice and one voice only.
If you are offering advise, you are labelled as Diadem 3.0 lover.
If you are explaining the mechanics, you are labelled as White Knight.
If you said you likes Eureka, apparently you are suffering Sunk-Cost Fallacy.

We also need not to remind them that the best way to show a game company that player base don't like a content is "not doing that content"
Please also not to remind them that only way to punish a subscribed mmorpg is un-subscribe like we did to Blizzard with WoD

why are you being so insulting?

[Vidu]

No, don't tell them when you are getting way more protean crystals with proper party.
Also don't tell them that it is possible to get more than 1,300 protean crystals within 60 mins if you choose to do chain party instead of NM train.
Please also don't tell them that you are only need to do NM when you are working on relic armor.
This thread only allows one voice and one voice only.
If you are offering advise, you are labelled as Diadem 3.0 lover.
If you are explaining the mechanics, you are labelled as White Knight.
If you said you likes Eureka, apparently you are suffering Sunk-Cost Fallacy.

We also need not to remind them that the best way to show a game company that player base don't like a content is "not doing that content"
Please also not to remind them that only way to punish a subscribed mmorpg is un-subscribe like we did to Blizzard with WoD

I feel you're missing the point of people who voice an opinion against Eureka a little.
You're approaching this as if people are only complaining about it being a grind - a lot of us dont mind a grind. I know I personally dont - done multiple relics, got primal-mounts in ARR and HW when they were current, got my PvP-level up to 50 back when queuetimes were hours long.
The problem I have with Eureka is: Its not fun. I've tried playing it "both ways" - I've tried the FATEs, I've tried the mob-chains. Neither was fun to me - and not because the payoff wasnt great or at least not only because of that but rather because the core-mechanic of standing in one spot and pulling mob after mob after mob (something you're suggesting as the "right way" to play this) isnt fun but boring to me.
I'm happy for you if you feel differently! I dont understand how anyone can find it fun to stand in one spot for an hour and chain-pull mobs, but I suppose my boyfriend cant understand that I like crafting, so classic situation of people liking different things.
I'm happy for you that Eureka is a thing that you like already. But you know what? I'd like to like it too, so I'm trying to explain why thats not the case yet and what could be done to make me like it. The devs will probably never read it, I know - but I know for sure that they wont read it if I dont even type it out.

Please understand that a lot of complains arent about "we're not getting enough crystals" but "getting crystals isnt fun". And getting told "oh you're just playing this content wrong!" isnt helping when the right way to play the content still isnt fun because the core-element isnt engaging and intresting.
Its not that people dont understand the content and need advice on it - its people understanding the content and still not having fun with it.
Thats the problem: That the content, no matter if we play it FATE-train or mob-chain, isnt fun. Not that we dont know how to get the most out of it.
I know how to eat white chocolate. I still dont like it.

[Ruf]

No, don't tell them when you are getting way more protean crystals with proper party.
Also don't tell them that it is possible to get more than 1,300 protean crystals within 60 mins if you choose to do chain party instead of NM train.
Please also don't tell them that you are only need to do NM when you are working on relic armor.
This thread only allows one voice and one voice only.
If you are offering advise, you are labelled as Diadem 3.0 lover.
If you are explaining the mechanics, you are labelled as White Knight.
If you said you likes Eureka, apparently you are suffering Sunk-Cost Fallacy.

We also need not to remind them that the best way to show a game company that player base don't like a content is "not doing that content"
Please also not to remind them that only way to punish a subscribed mmorpg is un-subscribe like we did to Blizzard with WoD

You can keep your protean crystals I dont need that many , you can keep loving diadem 3.0,no no even tho I state the bad mechanics, my avatar label me as a drk,no clue what sunk-cost fallacy mean but Eureka is bad & whatever you say, w/e it is, that content is poor.

[Divinemights]

You can keep your protean crystals I dont need that many , you can keep loving diadem 3.0,no no even tho I state the bad mechanics, my avatar label me as a drk,no clue what sunk-cost fallacy mean but Eureka is bad & whatever you say, w/e it is, that content is poor.

Do I looks like I care if you are doing Eureka or not?
lol
Advise is for those who still need Eureka, don't ticket yourself it.
Don't like the Eurkea, then don't do it

Hold on let me check this instance, right... still 143/144.
I guess there are people who still need Eureka

[Ruf]

Do I looks like I care if you are doing Eureka or not?
lol
Advise is for those who still need Eureka, don't ticket yourself it.
Don't like the Eurkea, then don't do it

Hold on let me check this instance, right... still 143/144.
I guess there are people who still need Eureka

I remember your exact words on a previous post speaking about how you've seen some of us 'haters' in Eureka so I'm going to "assume" that you do care ^^

[Divinemights]

I remember your exact words on a previous post speaking about how you've seen some of us 'haters' in Eureka so I'm going to "assume" that you do care ^^

Someone already confirmed that you have no arguments beside a word "boring".
Such a brilliant feedback.
I bid the word "boring" sure helps Yoship a lot on improving Eureka
WHy would expect we have no reactions when you start the flame war?
Check your own previous posts.
Don't even unerstand whatSunk-Cost Fallacy means but still want to do a flaming post