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    I guess I'm the only one that gets Aana post lol. Go ahead label me another War fanboy

    For reals tho, seems like an honest attempt to prevent the OP from getting the wrong idea just by glancing at the tank forums. There have been DRK threads for months, it's not untrue. I think it's entirely possible for an untrained forum-goer to get a bad impression of DRK, but in general - consistent with Aana's other posts - it basically only matters for the top % of players. I still see plenty of DRKs running other content (they might be in savage too, I don't know since I never really pug)

    There is a significant gap in # of DRK players compared to WAR/PLD, no doubt about that. But they are still here. There are still DRKs clearing savage. While I'm not defending the exaggerated argument in general, it's not incapable of clearing content. It's not that far behind. It's just undesirable in serious groups. There's nothing that makes it valuable to them. I think it's fair to point out both sides.
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
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    I think it's fair to point out both sides.
    I agree it is, but calling people out for exaggeration while at the same time exaggerating your side does no one any good.

    If we are going to have conversations and expect others to engage in the same conversation with an open mind and the ability to sway each others opinions, we ourselves need to put those actions to practice. We cannot ignore people's arguments and insist we are correct for the sake of being right. We cannot distort facts about the past to fit a narrative. We cannot argue that others engage in exaggeration, while we ourselves exaggerate in the next breath. And we cannot sugar coat what we have previously said in an effort to smooth out our own mistakes. That doesn't get us anywhere other than arguing for the sake of being right, when we should be arguing to find the truth.
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    Aana Azel
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    I'd also posit that a major factor in there being as many DRK related threads as there are is the effect of issues and concerns being largely ignored by the developers over a long period of time.
    I am not passing judgement that the number of drk threads is to damn high. Stating that there are lots of drk threads is not the same thing as saying there shouldn't BE drk threads. The knee jerk to defend and justify the volume of drk threads keeps blacking out my actual point. The number of threads/posts is simply a factoid that supports my point, not THE point.

    Drk is the weakest tank, but if you were to read the forums to learn about the state of tanks, you could be mistake the volume of posts to be a measure of HOW weak drk is and have a distorted view. Volume of posts about a thing does not equate to the actual power of said thing. It is representative of how people FEEL about a thing (frustration, anger, etc at being ignored by devs in most cases).

    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I guess I'm the only one that gets Aana post lol. Go ahead label me another War fanboy

    For reals tho, seems like an honest attempt to prevent the OP from getting the wrong idea just by glancing at the tank forums. There have been DRK threads for months, it's not untrue. I think it's entirely possible for an untrained forum-goer to get a bad impression of DRK
    Holy crap there is hope. Somebody got the point instead of jumping all over the perceived attack.
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