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    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    Do you though? Because lodestone and FFLogs both very clearly indicate otherwise. That's the hard evidence.
    That's evidence of nothing except people using an unauthorized tool to beat people over the head with.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    Do you truly genuinely believe that past statements/acts are not valid for use in setting a precedent?
    No, they aren't, because we aren't playing 3.0, or 2.0, or even 1.0. Yet someone felt that by bringing up an argument from before 4.x that they didn't win, somehow would make them win it now? Who cares.

    The point is that the OP was comparing themselves to others, when they should need not need to, and as long as they are not being jerks about it to other players, who really cares. Hence the list of jerk behavior.

    You get exactly as much respect back as you give. If you don't like what I have to say, use the ignore feature and kindly stop being rude to everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    No, they aren't, because we aren't playing 3.0, or 2.0, or even 1.0. Yet someone felt that by bringing up an argument from before 4.x that they didn't win, somehow would make them win it now? Who cares.
    I feel common consensus among the forum population is you didn't win that argument. You're just too blinded to see it and too obstinate to admit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I feel common consensus among the forum population is you didn't win that argument. You're just too blinded to see it and too obstinate to admit it.
    So two people make a consensus now? Kinda hard to go back to 2.0 now and test isn't it? Are we going to have an argument about what was the best rotation from 1.0 now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    So two people make a consensus now? Kinda hard to go back to 2.0 now and test isn't it? Are we going to have an argument about what was the best rotation from 1.0 now?
    You said something about 2xx statement. Then you went on about how healer should be played by not using regen for example, since it causes too much aggro. You show us a video where you tell people how to play healer, where you spam medica 1, while 1 member is out of range of the healing. Even if you have no experience in a dungeon or a fight, doesn't mean you shouldn't know the range of your own healing skills. You have been corrected so many times. Like those times you said you need to be healing 24-7, while multiply people was pretty nice towards you, explaing what you did wrong, but hey according to you, it's bullying.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4184822 This link is an example.
    You are one of those people from the list you made on the early pages on this thread. I find it very ironic.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 03-27-2018 at 11:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    You have been corrected so many times.
    I have not been "corrected", being corrected implies that I was doing something wrong in the first place. I could have posted a good video, but no, I choose a video of a piece of content from when I had not cleared it. I'd like to see you pull off a "perfect" video on content you haven't played. I've played the game since 1.0, if you have not played the game since 2.0 , you have no basis from which to make any claim that I was right or wrong, because SE has made adjustments over the years to how enmity changes. Back in 2.0, casting regen and overhealing would always result in the tank losing enmity. At 4.0 release, enmity could be ripped from the tank in all under-50 2.x content with a single cast of anything. So SE changed it so that either healing generates less enmity, or they changed it so tanks generate more.

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...75523012584b54
    4.01
    Savage Blade Enmity effect has been increased.
    Flash Enmity effect has been increased.
    Marauder/Warrior
    Action Adjustment
    Heavy Swing TP cost has been reduced from 70 to 60.
    Skull Sunder Enmity effect has been increased.
    Overpower Enmity effect has been increased.
    Dark Knight
    Action Adjustment
    Spinning Slash Enmity effect has been increased.
    Unleash Enmity effect has been increased.
    Even back in 2.4:

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...18d0d45bf52d59
    Gladiator
    Flash The amount of enmity generated has been increased.
    Circle of Scorn Now generates increased enmity.
    and 2.1:
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...7af43f3c43828a
    Paladin
    Shield Oath Enmity generated has been increased.

    Brutal Swing
    Overpower Enmity generated has been increased.

    Warrior
    Defiance While under the effect of Defiance, characters will now gain increased enmity, and HP recovered via curing magic is increased by 20%.
    Steel Cyclone Now generates increased enmity.
    So you see, what I stated was likely more correct at 2.0 than at 4.01, yet I had found no need to change the way I was playing the game from 2.x thru 3.x because I was still getting through the content.

    Now stop bringing this up. It is a dead argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Seems like it’s far more than just 2 individuals that seem to think you were in the wrong with regards to your previous statements about regens and how one should heal. If you need a reference, you can refer back to that thread, and this one. While I stayed out of the debate caused by your video, I did watch it, and I did disagree with it being the way one should heal.

    It would be much better on your part to just humbly accept that you were wrong, and move on. Nothing wrong with accepting that you aren’t always right.
    I'd rather just akaneakki stop bringing it up like they were obsessed with me. I never suggested it was the way one-and-only way one should heal. I've only stated that it was the way I was playing, because that was how I played 2.0 content, and in 2.0 content regen on trash just turned you into the tank when you had a weak tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Now stop bringing this up. It is a dead argument.
    Do you have any idea how comical you look posting that after posting a couple pages of arguing about it?

    It's not dead just because you declare it to be after insisting on getting the last 2000 words. Want it to die? Stop arguing. Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Do you have any idea how comical you look posting that after posting a couple pages of arguing about it?

    It's not dead just because you declare it to be after insisting on getting the last 2000 words. Want it to die? Stop arguing. Done.
    akaneakki will just keep bumping the thread, because that's what they did before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    I'd rather just akaneakki stop bringing it up like they were obsessed with me. I never suggested it was the way one-and-only way one should heal. I've only stated that it was the way I was playing, because that was how I played 2.0 content, and in 2.0 content regen on trash just turned you into the tank when you had a weak tank.
    Hun, the only one who continues to drag about this dead horse is you. This thread had more or less died down, but you felt the need to return to it and start things up again days later. Why is that? If you want something to die, then mayhaps stop replying to posts about it? Or reviving topics that had, more or less, deviated from the “dead chocobo” you so wish would die?

    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    akaneakki will just keep bumping the thread, because that's what they did before.
    I highly doubt they care that much. The one who brought this back 4 days later was you.

    Your post, Today at 05:25AM CST:

    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    No, they aren't, because we aren't playing 3.0, or 2.0, or even 1.0. Yet someone felt that by bringing up an argument from before 4.x that they didn't win, somehow would make them win it now? Who cares.
    But...akaneakki was the one bumping this thread??? Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    You get exactly as much respect back as you give.
    That you do. Mayhaps it would do well for you to also keep that in mind.

    If you don't like what I have to say, use the ignore feature and kindly stop being rude to everyone.
    And take your own advice, as well.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 03-28-2018 at 12:49 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    I have not been "corrected",.
    You look even worse posting those lodestone infos. Let me correct you
    in 4.01 The emnity from tank classes went up, because they were no where close to being fined tuned. Most people even noticed, hence the change. This is when people was lvl 70, so obviously there was some miss calculation after launch?.
    2.4. Overpower was simply way better than flash back then, again nothing to do with not wanting to use regen. I used it back then and had no issue.
    2.1? Yeah how long is that compare to last year? You even said it in your post, there was even a buff coming out in 2.4 for PLD, but yet you gonna go around tell people that regen is bad like 1 year and half later after that PLD patch came out. Do you even know how silly you went when you posted this? This makes your arguement even less valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    So two people make a consensus now? Kinda hard to go back to 2.0 now and test isn't it? Are we going to have an argument about what was the best rotation from 1.0 now?
    Seems like it’s far more than just 2 individuals that seem to think you were in the wrong with regards to your previous statements about regens and how one should heal. If you need a reference, you can refer back to that thread, and this one. While I stayed out of the debate caused by your video, I did watch it, and I did disagree with it being the way one should heal.

    It would be much better on your part to just humbly accept that you were wrong, and move on. Nothing wrong with accepting that you aren’t always right.
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