Confessions of a Toxic Elitist

[Lilseph]

Wow. I just saw that video and then the thread.

I have...NO WORDS.

just...wow. Omg. How can someone be so...obtuse? Holy moly.

And now they're just doing that whole behavior all over again here.

I'm amazed and not in the good way. woo

This is why I didn't bother with him. He not only derailed the thread, but also started to call names while calling people cheaters and toxic. It's just a waste of oxygen. The best way to deal with a troll, is to ignore them.

Kaiva:

I've been in your shoes before (and I still am, to be honest). I have been raiding since 2.0, and when I thought I was being good at my job, joining other statics and pugging taught me the hard way how I suck with certain things, like mechanics execution, DPS output and adaptation. FFLogs wasn't a thing back then, so your only feedback was the other players calling you bad. It was depressing, and you feel powerless, because you really don't know what to do. Your whole world crumbles in front of your eyes. The only advice I can give you, is to practice. Surround yourself with supportive people, ask for feedback, be humble and never have things for granted. There's always room for improvement and no one is perfect. Just press on. On my end, I got ACT, asked "the elite" (who were extremely supportive and helpful), read guides, watched videos, practiced on dummies and whatnot. Perseverance is highly rewarding in the end.

I understand how depression works, as a depressive person myself (it's epidemic at this point of history, to be honest), and I know how hard it is to deal with our inner demons. We really don't choose what affects us, it just happens. Like I said before, try to stay with around of people that will support you and have your back when shit hits the fan.

You're not alone!

PD: We're in the same datacenter cluster if you ever want to talk to just mess around.

[WilhelmWhite]

Glad to see Keeping Up With the Official Forums is still going strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1To_sXn9oU

^This thread in a nutshell

[Savagelf]

I been part a gaming group called Good guy gaming who desire is to combat toxicities. there step they suggest if first you must admit your part of the problem. yes I am part problem too once one admit they part problem then where we go for there is up to us we must honest and admit we just toxicities with are elitism too.

[micropanther7]

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I think SenorPatty said it the best really, and I haven't read all the replies in the thread yet, just wanted to add my two cents. Regardless of how threads evolve (or devolve lol is that even a word?), your posts are insightful and helpful, and you are always learning and trying to better yourself... I'd say that makes you far from being a poor player or toxic, you gotta stop being so hard on yourself. With regards to myself, I get anxiety, it's a lot better since I had hypnotherapy, if something shakes my confidence I try to think "What can I take from this that's positive and learn from it?". That kind of perspective does take a bit of practice but it helps a lot, for me personally. I see dropping my sub as letting the negative experiences win, but would take a break instead, that would be what I would recommend to you

[KaldeaSahaline]

Do you even play this game's group combat content?

Why yes I do.

Do you though? Because lodestone and FFLogs both very clearly indicate otherwise. That's the hard evidence. The soft evidence also supports this theory because almost everything you're saying is actually just flat out wrong to the point that I feel safe in saying you're doing this intentionally for effect.

And please don't pick on semantics and say that dungeons or normal mode count. It's obvious from the onset of this discussion that the scope is clearly Savage oriented as evidenced by Kaiva him/herself.

Where did I tell people to use regen in this thread? I didn't. A conversation from 9 months ago is irrelevant now. But somehow you're obsessed with me, so you keep bringing it up.

Do you truly genuinely believe that past statements/acts are not valid for use in setting a precedent?

[Kazgrel]

Confession: I tend to identify more with the mid-hardcore crowd in terms of striving to improve performance, use of tools such as ACT, among other things, but never raid savage (mostly for scheduling reasons). I should look around for a static (I’d prefer to raid that way vs. pugging), so that’s 100% my fault and problem.

[MeridaQ]

This entire sentence is so wildly wrong that I had to register on the forums to reply to it.

First of all, how exactly does one "try harder" without learning what they are doing wrong? Pressing the keys / buttons harder doesn't do more damage. The most effective way to learn and improve is to study the work of the best people, and learn from what they do differently than you. FFlogs, and other tools help with that.

Secondly, you say specifically that when people compare, they don't do it to improve. Who the hell are you to decide other peoples intentions? Who are you to dictate that this proven process is invalid? If you don't like it, don't use it, and keep your mouth shut about it.

I haven't posted in a while and I am a little late to this discussion, but I wanted to respond to let you know I would have liked this comment twice if I could of. I laughed pretty hard, thank you.

[KisaiTenshi]

Do you though? Because lodestone and FFLogs both very clearly indicate otherwise. That's the hard evidence.

That's evidence of nothing except people using an unauthorized tool to beat people over the head with.

Do you truly genuinely believe that past statements/acts are not valid for use in setting a precedent?

No, they aren't, because we aren't playing 3.0, or 2.0, or even 1.0. Yet someone felt that by bringing up an argument from before 4.x that they didn't win, somehow would make them win it now? Who cares.

The point is that the OP was comparing themselves to others, when they should need not need to, and as long as they are not being jerks about it to other players, who really cares. Hence the list of jerk behavior.

You get exactly as much respect back as you give. If you don't like what I have to say, use the ignore feature and kindly stop being rude to everyone.

[Dualgunner]

Lol, lodestone is an unauthorized tool now.

[Ghishlain]

No, they aren't, because we aren't playing 3.0, or 2.0, or even 1.0. Yet someone felt that by bringing up an argument from before 4.x that they didn't win, somehow would make them win it now? Who cares.

I feel common consensus among the forum population is you didn't win that argument. You're just too blinded to see it and too obstinate to admit it.