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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    Nah, someone just decided to be the living proof of the thread's topic.
    There's only room for one The Living Proof™ 'round these parts.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Try not to feel too down about gray parses
    I'd just like to expand on this. One thing I see people say in the Balance, at least in the tank sections, is not to worry too much about your percentile until you have BiS. I think gray and green, and probably blue too, are too low for gear to have much of an effect but once you work the kinks you should be able to get blue easily. But basically don't worry too much about your percentile once you start figuring things out, just worry about if you're doing more dps than previously. Personally, as long as I can hit higher than 50th I don't really worry until I get BiS. Another thing to take into account is the number of parses you're fighting against, especially for smn. Smn has 21.5k parses in the past two weeks, so for popular classes it'll be a bit tougher to hit higher percentiles since you have much more competition than with other classes, like blm which only has 13k parses in the past two weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    You are the living proof of the toxicity I am talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    It's not relevant at all. It's like saying you shouldn't eat someones food, because they once burned a cake.
    Except you are doing precisely the same thing you did previously. Let's break it down, shall we?

    You claimed parsers are "basically cheating," which is completely false. When called out by numerous people, you have now backpedaled; citing it a "quip."
    You claimed healers shouldn't use Regen, which is completely false. Despite numerous corrections, you gloated at the prospect of the Lily system.

    Both correlate with one another on the basis you insisted on an opinion which was factually inaccurate; doubling down when numerous people—not simply myself—corrected you. Now if you admitted your initial mistake, I'd be among the first to offer due credit. Instead, you've resorted to personal attacks and baseless accusations—ironically becoming a living example of the very toxicity you claim parsers cause.

    Regardless, I have said enough on this subject.
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  3. #203
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    Most of Balance's specific job channels are very supportive to people that do bad damage as long they want to improve and are open to discussion. I believe most people that think that place is toxic have either never gotten into it or just read the general chats.

    Expanding on popular jobs topic: It will really depend of the job. Jobs with high popularity can be easier to do comparatively better if most of the population are just really bad, this is a case of BRD. In the end the log's rankings are all about comparison. Jobs like MNK and MCH where you have lower popularity but many of those players are skilled speedrunners will make it really hard to compete.
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    Last edited by zuzu-bq; 03-24-2018 at 08:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Miste, surely you realize that if someone posts something on the internet, and some significant amount of time has passed, bringing it up again without being prompted just makes you look petty. That is what Bourne is doing, that is what akaneakki is doing.
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    You call people elitist jerks because people tell others how to play, where you advocate a video how to play healer in dungeon. That's why I brought it up and you lied about it being in 2xx when it was under year ago.
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  5. #205
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    You claimed healers shouldn't use Regen, which is completely false.

    Where did I tell people to use regen in this thread? I didn't. A conversation from 9 months ago is irrelevant now. But somehow you're obsessed with me, so you keep bringing it up.

    This doesn't change the fact that parsers violate the EULA and are cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    You call people elitist jerks because people tell others how to play, where you advocate a video how to play healer in dungeon. That's why I brought it up and you lied about it being in 2xx when it was under year ago.
    I said that was my 2.0 strategy. Because you jerks at the time didn't believe it was possible to complete any content the way I had described it, yet I had been doing it that way since 2.0 because the tanks from 2.0, in the tank forum, kept saying they hated it when healers made their job harder by throwing every HoT before the pull.

    Now quit bringing stuff from dead and locked topics up.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 03-24-2018 at 09:04 AM.

  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    Expanding on popular jobs topic: It will really depend of the job. Jobs with high popularity can be easier to do comparatively better if most of the population are just really bad, this is a case of BRD. In the end the log's rankings are all about comparison. Jobs like MNK and MCH where you have lower popularity but many of those players are skilled speedrunners will make it really hard to compete.
    Yeah, that's also true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    You are the living proof of the toxicity I am talking about.

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    It is indeed a violation of the ToS. But your argument about cheating doesn't hold on. Can you please drop it or just make another thread for it?
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Where did I tell people to use regen in this thread? I didn't. A conversation from 9 months ago is irrelevant now. But somehow you're obsessed with me, so you keep bringing it up.
    Did you even read anakeakki’s post to you? They said that you forgot to add people who cannot play the game satisfactorily should not be giving advice, such as people that tell others not to use regens or AOE skills in dungeons, to the list you made. Nowhere in there was a mention of YOU; YOU were the one who made it personal with your reply to THEM.

    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    You forgot to mention that people who think they play good, but people give them advice, then refuse to take it and tells people how to play. It's like that one person on this forum who said regen shouldn't be used on tanks, because it generates too much aggro, while it's the best gcd in game when it comes to healing. Or DPS who think aoe is bad in dungeons? Etc, the list goes long. And how is it elitist to want people to skip cutsceene? I don't think you understand the word elitist at all honestly.
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Aww, you felt left out. I was thinking of a way to say "Person who keeps digging up the dead chocobos from 2.0 content, or really ANY old content, to say someone is bad at the game." If you forget the context of that conversation it was because it was in one of those many "pure healer, vs idiot dps healer" arguments. Which was the point of "h) Instead of taking advice, looks at players lodestone to try and find a reason to dismiss their advice or opinion" Which is what you just did now, congrats toxic player, here's your award: nothing! you get zero internet points!
    YOU were the one who brought up the situation specifically regarding you; not akaneakki. They never pointed any fingers at YOU; never even used the pronoun “you” in their post. You construed it to be about you; why is that?

    Because you jerks
    Uncalled for name-calling in a thread where you have been supposedly advocating against toxicity and elitism.

    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    It is indeed a violation of the ToS. But your argument about cheating doesn't hold on. Can you please drop it or just make another thread for it?
    Good advice; instead of continuing to derail this thread, which was not even about parsers, but about self-performance and expectations, why don’t you make your own discussion thread about why you consider parsers cheating. Even though, by the definition you gave as to what constitutes as cheating, parsers do not fall within it.

    Might I also suggest, if you want a topic dropped, to stop replying to posts about it and dragging it on?
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 03-24-2018 at 09:16 AM.
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  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Do you remember the video I posted when I asked for feedback and while the forum feedback was kinda neutral-postive, the comments I received on youtube were not, and then apparently someone took it to 4ch and downvote bombed it some more.
    That was my feedback when you posted the video back in the days. At the time I was trying to be polite and give you some benefit of the doubt because it seemed like you had just returned and need some help.


    With that being said, even as a non-DPS-healer, your healer performance was quite poor in that video and if you haven't improved much since then (honestly don't know since we're not in the same data cluster), then there's not much I can say.

    You show a level of inflexibility, arrogance, and ignorance and given this post, I would count you as more toxic and elitist then any other entry in that list.

    A mark of a good healer is adaptable. You show none of that. And saying that I wouldn't trust you to advise another healer how to play even in a non-DPS way if your performance hasn't improved since a year ago.

    I know this has no relevance to the OP but I just wanted to add my two cents since that topic was brought up and you continue to remain as ignorant about your own failings while claiming to stand on a higher morale ground than everyone else.
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  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    That was my feedback when you posted the video back in the days. At the time I was trying to be polite and give you some benefit of the doubt because it seemed like you had just returned and need some help.


    With that being said, even as a non-DPS-healer, your healer performance was quite poor in that video and if you haven't improved much since then (honestly don't know since we're not in the same data cluster), then there's not much I can say.

    You show a level of inflexibility, arrogance, and ignorance and given this post, I would count you as more toxic and elitist then any other entry in that list.

    A mark of a good healer is adaptable. You show none of that. And saying that I wouldn't trust you to advise another healer how to play even in a non-DPS way if your performance hasn't improved since a year ago.

    I know this has no relevance to the OP but I just wanted to add my two cents since that topic was brought up and you continue to remain as ignorant about your own failings while claiming to stand on a higher morale ground than everyone else.
    Christ, that was her? That explains a lot. I remember how that thread went, and I thought some humility and basic self-awareness would have resulted from that. All of my good will and forgiveness has flown out given what has happened in THIS thread.

    Here was my response, that long ago.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4184822

    There is one other thing I'd like to say, Kisai. Know when to bow out, because it looks like you're about to Streisand yourself into oblivion.
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 03-24-2018 at 09:51 AM.
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