Confessions of a Toxic Elitist

[Miste]

It's not relevant at all. It's like saying you shouldn't eat someones food, because they once burned a cake.

I get what you are saying, I do, but it is simply part of online communities. They don't always forget things and especially if it is a random anonymous person online that they don't know personally they are less likely to give you more chances if you do the same things multiple times and when it seems to me you often don't accept it when you are incorrect about something and admit you were wrong.

I don't think I've ever seen you admit you were incorrect when people clarify things to you. You usually just keep replying and changing what you reply to something else entirely instead of just conceding you make a mistake. Again, not trying to be mean or anything I am just trying to tell you honestly how you come off...at least to me.

Similar situation happened in the Tales thread recently where another poster refused to admit they were wrong even with tons of evidence that they were. People usually just don't appreciate it when people act like that.

If you seemed to listen more to what others say and actually think it through or ask questions about why you were incorrect about something I think people would be way less likely to bring up past problems. It seems to me you don't often end any discussion on a good note because you are usually completely unbending even when presented with facts.

[Dualgunner]

It's not relevant at all. It's like saying you shouldn't eat someones food, because they once burned a cake.

It's like saying you should be wary of any cakes somebody bakes, because they've burned them in the past and there is no evidence they learned from it.

[SenorPatty]

Wow. I just saw that video and then the thread.

I have...NO WORDS.

just...wow. Omg. How can someone be so...obtuse? Holy moly.

And now they're just doing that whole behavior all over again here.

I'm amazed and not in the good way. woo

[Shurrikhan]

Fine tuning my butt, you don't need to have a searchable database of how everyone performs in every instance of the game to fine tune your own progress. It's used to rank people, and often whether or not to accept or reject low performers. That's the moronic aspect of it, and I hate people who whitewash that. Participating in that is perpetuating it.

Wait, having exact timelines of literally hundreds of people who've each done better than me isn't to my advantage, but rather all that information helpful to all but the top players providing it is in fact meant only to discriminate against me?

Damn, awfully roundabout irredeemable villains we've got up there.

[Kallistra]

Glad to see Keeping Up With the Official Forums is still going strong.

[RokkuEkkusu]

I'm not much of a parser person, but I do expect some effort from each party member. When I don't see the typical buffs,dots, and/or appropriate debuffs from certain roles, that means the person is not making use of the role's toolkit.

I may not be good enough for the parser sites, but I will put whatever effort I can to complete high-end content and earn the rewards that are available at my skill level. If an Extreme Primal mount is farmable for me, I will go for it and earn it one way or another.

[Tridus]

Today I learned: disagreeing is harassing.

Making someone feel bad by pointing out their own foolishness and incorrect statements. How mean!

No wonder she's against parsers: she doesn't want to know whats going on. Ignorance is bliss, after all.

[xbahax92]

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[KaivaC]

The recent posts gave me cause to think about something. Quite a few times, I have stated something and been called out on how incorrect I was. The prominent in my mind was a tanking argument I got involved in, and was called out for how wrong I was - something that, at the time, I felt that I was not wrong for. However, I eventually did realize that I was wrong, and I admitted to it. My threads about the general player base, while they might not have been exactly wrong, once I saw that I was pulling grey parses, I fell into a deep rut that I admittedly lost my confidence over because I was amongst that same player base that I was calling out - in hindsight, I was being a hypocrite for posting about that when I haven't reached the level that I wanted the player base to get to.

The point is, I see where I was wrong at. I've admitted to it, paid the price for my hubris, and I have been very open to all the comments in this thread. It's the reason why I haven't really counter argued anything, because right now, I'm listening to what everybody is saying (like, really listening). I want to thank everybody for their support, I truly, truly, truly did not expect to get as much support as I have. I am humbled for sure.

On the recent discussion, parsers are tools - yes, they can have a hugely negative impact, but only if those who don't understand it or are jerks in the first place use it in that manner. It's unfair to say that I fell into my current situation because of parsers. I'm in this position because of a multitude of reasons (depression, hubris, this being one of the worst times of the year for me in personal life, realizing how hypocritical I've been, over-analyzing myself). While parsers are indeed against EULA, they are just tools meant for improvement. After taking advice from peers and utilizing a parser tool, I have seen a personal improvement not only in DPS, but my understanding of SMN in general. I don't believe that parsers are cheating, though I admit, using it to compare myself to others based on this idea that I'm a green/orange was foolish.

They are great tools for comparing your cast times to others, viewing rotations and seeing where you went wrong vs what they did to succeed. In other words, high-level optimization. I don't blame the tool, I blame my own misuse of the tool even though I cannot personally use it (PS4 player). I openly pointed out my logs, not to show 'this is what parsers did to me', but to point out that, because of my sometimes controversial nature on the forums, I have realized that I was speaking about things that I do not have the credentials to talk about right now. And I am not afraid to admit that. I'm human. And right now, I'm in the mindframe of just shutting my mouth, listening, and learning.

I will end with this though: regarding the recent talk about harassment and all that - look, I made a simple joke to lighten the mood. How that went from a miqote yuri screenplay that I jokingly suggested to a full blown argument, I don't know. But while we do get into heated arguments, this community is not one for that type of thing. Compare recent discussions to what you will find in other MMO discussion boards. An example of online harassment can be found over there. Just make a mention of Call of Duty or how Moira is unfair for Genji or Tracer mains, or just say FFXIV in a WoW thread, or bring up WoW in SWTOR discussion boards.

Let's just call it what it is in this thread: heated disagreement.

[zuzu-bq]

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That's the spirit!