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  1. #1
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    LastFireAce's Avatar
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    Xitra Lunrise
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Yea your new... So let me get you up to speed boi.
    Yes Mentor are regular player just as you and I.
    3 different class job at lv60
    300 Commendation
    1000 Dungeon
    Easy stuff....
    So MOST of the player just want the little Crown, because is cool, some of them think they the best or whatever.
    Now thing is... True Mentor don't wear the crown unless they do the mentor roulette. They help people out and stuff with you no even knowing.
    Btw Mentor Roulette is like every other Daily Roulette just to help Q time.
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    Araminta's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Araminta Kressida
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 81
    I believe I understand where OP is coming from, I have endured similar where you get into a dungeon/trial/etc and the first one to leave seems to be the 'older' player, the Mentor.
    Coming from a Mentor perspective, I don't think it should be gotten rid of completely I just feel it needs to be much much more harder to get our little crown. I feel like 3 jobs to 60 especially when you can buy one job to 60 from the Mogstation is too little, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION but having Mentors have a Tank, Healer, Melee AND Range class at current max class as well as finishing the story and having at least 2 DOL/H at previous max level seems more of a challenge, maybe even increasing the Comms...?
    Just my ramble XD

    quote used to show what is needed currently to get a crown, which I personally deem very very easy.
    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    I.
    3 different class job at lv60
    300 Commendation
    1000 Dungeon
    Easy stuff....
    So MOST of the player just want the little Crown, because is cool, some of them think they the best or whatever.
    Now thing is... True Mentor don't wear the crown unless they do the mentor roulette. They help people out and stuff with you no even knowing.
    Btw Mentor Roulette is like every other Daily Roulette just to help Q time.
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Araminta View Post
    I feel like 3 jobs to 60 especially when you can buy one job to 60 from the Mogstation is too little, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION but having Mentors have a Tank, Healer, Melee AND Range class at current max class as well as finishing the story and having at least 2 DOL/H at previous max level seems more of a challenge, maybe even increasing the Comms...?
    If I recall correctly, the requirements were purposely set so low to account for cultural differences between Eastern and Western playerbases. While most Japanese players enjoy leveling everything, it is less common among Western players, so the requirements were set low in order to ensure that enough people would be able to achieve mentor status on the non-JP data centers. Personally, I think such lax requirements were a disservice to the sprouts, as even if the requirements were stricter, there would still be plenty of mentors to go around.

    Regardless, one thing I do think is necessary is updating the requirements as the game ages. Compare to roulettes: when new dungeons come out, we get locked out of DR:Expert or DR:70 until we complete the new duties. Likewise, the mentor system should require more from the mentors at each new expansion. Not necessarily right at expansion launch, but around the time the first raid is introduced, mentor status should be revoked from anyone who doesn't meet the new requirements.

    For example, during the X.5 patch, an announcement should go out saying, "Beginning four weeks after the launch of Next Expansion Name, the requirements for mentor status will be as follows: [requirements here]. Any players who do not meet these requirements at that time will no longer have access to mentor status, mentor roulette, or novice network. Speak with a Smith after fulfilling the requirements to re-obtain mentor status." This would give players enough time at the end of an expansion to plan ahead so that they can keep their jobs current for the next one, and enough time at the start of the new expansion to carry out their plans to maintain mentor status without interfering with their enjoyment of the new content. At minimum, the current requirements should be increased to max level in each role and completion of the previous expansion -- I hope that much we can agree on. But even better would be one tank, one healer, one melee DD, one ranged DD.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 03-27-2018 at 01:37 PM.
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    Kyouma Hououin
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Im also a mentor and i like help new ppl with duties or with the crafting system, but the mentor roulette is a joke. We all know the story what happen when we get an EX primal with mentor roulette.
    If only 1 or 2 ppl dont know the strategy its f***d, it happened with me many times, there were some ppl cant even speak english so there was no point to explain the strategy.

    Last time i got Odin and a bard keep using lv1 LB as soon as the bar filled..., we wiped 4 times but he refused to listen. So honestly what a mentor can do in a case like this? So yea i left without feeling guilty.

    But i agree with the topic, mentor system need a rework
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    Yea your new... So let me get you up to speed boi.
    Yes Mentor are regular player just as you and I.
    3 different class job at lv60
    300 Commendation
    1000 Dungeon
    Easy stuff....
    So MOST of the player just want the little Crown, because is cool, some of them think they the best or whatever.
    Now thing is... True Mentor don't wear the crown unless they do the mentor roulette. They help people out and stuff with you no even knowing.
    Btw Mentor Roulette is like every other Daily Roulette just to help Q time.
    yea boi ur so cool ^^
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    AmemeAmeklin's Avatar
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    Ameme Ame'klin
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I was never invited to the novice network so just muddled through on my own and with friends.

    I imagine if we had a separate ability to rate someone's mentoring skill (that did not require a person to hang out after the end of a duty), that might be a more accurate reflection of someone as a mentor.
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