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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    The community did not hate Eureka, it is a small portion of people hate it with majority treating it as an optional content (they don't care).
    Eureka is staying and getting more features and improvements at 4.3.
    ...the only reason it's not hated more is that you can semi-afk your way to a relic. You show up, semi-afk while other people pop mobs, tag the boss when it spawns, and you get goodies while you chat on discord or something. The way it's turned out is incredibly shallow, nor much fun.

    Keep in mind too, the exp to increase our level may rise substantially in future eureka zones, and they can if they want nerf fates so that people will be forced to grind the majority of time for 30 chains, then FATE rarely. The fun that we have now is really conditional on it being easy; if its actually hard, you can't talk, have fun, etc. It's worrisome because I know we are going to be getting this for the rest of the expansion and I'm not sure the formula is robust enough to keep people in it if they change it to make it harder.
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    Last edited by RiyahArp; 03-26-2018 at 04:12 PM.

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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    ...the only reason it's not hated more
    What's with people trying to speak for the whole playerbase by makng such oversimplification these days ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    everyone that dislikes it are fools and do not know what they are talking about" Flat out insults, I have done no such thing.
    Funny, because this is exactly what you do for the opposite side...and you still don't understand that people are not calling you a fool for disliking it but for trying to enforce that everyone who dare like it is delusional.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-26-2018 at 05:40 PM.

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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    What's with people trying to speak for the whole playerbase by makng such oversimplification these days ?
    What is it with people making posts that have no point to the main discussion?
    Adding in to respond to the edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Funny, because this is exactly what you do for the opposite side...and you still don't understand that people are not calling you a fool for disliking it but for trying to enforce that everyone who dare like it is delusional.
    No I do not, you will say anything to defend your actions. Also going to my original reply to you "What is it with people making posts that have no point to the main discussion?" In other words, all you added was flame bait, and does not add to the discussion. The only reason I am saying this to show why I am asking you to stop it.
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    ...the only reason it's not hated more is that you can semi-afk your way to a relic. You show up, semi-afk while other people pop mobs, tag the boss when it spawns, and you get goodies while you chat on discord or something. The way it's turned out is incredibly shallow, nor much fun.

    Keep in mind too, the exp to increase our level may rise substantially in future eureka zones, and they can if they want nerf fates so that people will be forced to grind the majority of time for 30 chains, then FATE rarely. The fun that we have now is really conditional on it being easy; if its actually hard, you can't talk, have fun, etc. It's worrisome because I know we are going to be getting this for the rest of the expansion and I'm not sure the formula is robust enough to keep people in it if they change it to make it harder.
    That is another reason people are forcing themselves to do it now. Some are scared they will change it for the worse and make it unplayable. It is not far fetched to assume SE does not know what they are doing when they release a diadem 3.0 saying it will not be like diadem, new and innovative.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 03-26-2018 at 05:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    No I do not, you will say anything to defend your actions.
    Sure, you wouldn't ever call people "blind fanboy" for liking it, "forcing themselves to like it" or agree that "they must be paid to say they like it"...
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    In other words, all you added was flame bait, and does not add to the discussion.
    No because the main problem of this topic is exactly that people are trying to enforce what the playerbase thinks to prove them right, instead of keeping this on their personal opinion. Again, after over 100 pages where your participate on this topic, it's baffling that you didn't realize that.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-26-2018 at 06:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    hateful snip
    Stop. You have no moral high-ground in this debate. All either of you is doing is making it worse for yourselves. You've long since stopped arguing over Eureka and have devolved to just snapping at each other. Enough.
    Also relevant reading material for you.

    I'm halfway to 19 now. All being at this point did for me was make me realize just how much artificial difficulty the place had. Deaths don't matter if you travel in a party and then you get mounts and can just outrun even the things that can 2-shot you. The true annoyance was and still remains having to run back to the quest location every time you die. I just want to start getting my feathers so I can get some weapons and then see how I want to divide my gear upgrades.
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Samurai Lv 90


    This is good content, indeed!
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    Tera Luna
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post


    This is good content, indeed!
    Yes it is. The picture shows a good use of colour, inferred movement, light and shadow. The slight offsetting of the main characters allows room for the wider spread of the stationary or afk ones. Overall then a good picture.

    Oh, you mean the actual game content here - well that's pure shite.
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