A "Good Community" doesn't excuse content from being unfun

[Avatre]

"You're playing it wrong" as a counter-argument to why it is boring, just miss the true reason why it's boring. It's not FUN

Both highly suggestive points. As the saying goes: one man's trash is another man's treasure.

While I actually do somewhat enjoy it, I do see that there are flaws in it. There definitely should be a level sync so that anyone can party, and still gain EXP/chain rewards. There should be more to do than just kill/wait for a NM to spawn do to the "hard" work of others.

I also understand, that it is newly implemented, and that the relics are in no way done. There is likely to be a fair number of things don to it still, and I'm just hoping that it adds more depth to the place.

[RainDurell]

Both highly suggestive points. As the saying goes: one man's trash is another man's treasure.

You took that quote out of context.
My point was that alot of people who support Eureka on social media basically say "You are playing it wrong", but don't see that it's less about the way you play it, and more about how fighting monste- you know what, forget that, sometimes you don't even FIGHT the monsters in Eureka with the FATE train tactic, because you might be too underleveled or too lazy to actually grind it.

I mentioned this in the main post, but I'll say it again: I don't claim that Eureka (Community excluded) can't be enjoyable to certain people, I'm just saying a vast majority (As seen from the initial reception of Eureka) find it painfully boring.

[Rosentretter]

One more of the +30 Eureka threads... Gosh I got excited with the title.

[LaylaTsarra]

I'm just saying a vast majority .

Can you provide a link to support this claim please? I'd love to see it.

[RainDurell]

Can you provide a link to support this claim please? I'd love to see it.

Just look at the countless posts in the General Forum! Now you're probably going to argue "this doesn't represent the vast majority of players" and you are correct, however just the fact that these posts exist are enough to make you think "There is something wrong with this content". You don't see people going like "The new raid tier is bad because x y z", because not many think that. You DO however see alot of posts about Eureka being bad because people DO think that. Saying Eureka is fun is ALMOST (note the "almost", not "exactly") like saying FATE grinding is fun, and I think it's safe to assume that most people don't find FATE grinding fun.

[Skivvy]

Just look at the countless posts in the General Forum! Now you're probably going to argue "this doesn't represent the vast majority of players" and you are correct, however just the fact that these posts exist are enough to make you think "There is something wrong with this content". You don't see people going like "The new raid tier is bad because x y z", because not many think that. You DO however see alot of posts about Eureka being bad because people DO think that. Saying Eureka is fun is ALMOST (note the "almost", not "exactly") like saying FATE grinding is fun, and I think it's safe to assume that most people don't find FATE grinding fun.

There are a million threads because people cannot keep things to a single feedback thread - or even a few. Like yourself, everyone felt the need to create a new thread, clogging up the front page since it launched. You can't claim any sort of proof based on the number of threads being started. NA forums are notorious for this type of behavior.

[LaylaTsarra]

Just look at the countless posts in the General Forum!

Oh that makes it official. To be honest I have a hard time remembering when this forum actually liked anything new that came out. I still ask for the link or let me suggest you speak for yourself.

[RainDurell]

Oh that makes it official. To be honest I have a hard time rememberomg when this forum actually liked anything new that came out. I still ask for the link or let me suggest you speak for yourself.

That's because the last thing anything NEW came out, it was Diadem 2.0. And we all know how everyone loved that.
Fact is, Eureka is nothing more than FATE grinding on a bigger scale with ever so slightly more thought put into "what im killing, and what am I going to kill next".
I think it's safe to assume most people aren't a fan of FATE grinding, if you're about to say "Prove it" then I have nothing more to say except that you are disconnected from what people find fun nowadays.

[LaylaTsarra]

I think it's safe to assume

Oh so that' the link huh? Got it. Sorry but your not convincing in the least. Provide a link for your majority or at least admit you don't have one.

[Avatre]

You took that quote out of context.

I think you might be taking what I said out of context.

I didn't point to you saying it was you opinion, just that both of those things are highly suggestive based on person interests for anyone(you, me, anybody on the forums, anybody in the game, the NPCs, the monsters, heck, even the power company just because). What one person will find enjoyable, others may not. Let us take watching something like the Bachelor for example. I personally HATE watching "reality" TV, but some people live their life to watch something like that and enjoy it. Does my view on it invalidate theirs? Not at all.

So people saying that Eureka is "boring", "crap content", or whatever, are in a sense correct(to them and others who share their views), but also wrong(to the ones who enjoy it for what/how it is) due to the subjective nature of their opinions.