Released a broken Eureka

[Vstarstruck]

Last I checked there is no feature created by SE that is forcing people to only play with other high levels. It is a choice by the player. SE has no control over that and they never will.

Do you know what level sync is? It has been in FFXI for like 8 years, there is NO EXCUSE for this place to lack it, so it is SE's fault.
https://youtu.be/kGvtpwwHoJo?t=615

[TraeSnow]

Do you know what level sync is? It has been in FFXI for like 8 years, there is NO EXCUSE for this place to lack it, so it is SE's fault.
https://youtu.be/kGvtpwwHoJo?t=615

Has nothing to do with level sync. The OP stated their friend was being kicked from NM parties because of their level. You do not need to sync your level to share exp for NMs.

Since an entire party of level 10s fighting a lvl 19 NM can still achieve gold participation, there is no reason at all in the DESIGN that forces people to only play with high levels for NMs. It is purely player choice, not a flaw in Eureka's design.

Now, grinding on mobs for exp, then yes, the flaw is with Eureka's design because you need to be with a party your level or you will not get exp. However, the OP stated NM train.

[Vstarstruck]

It's been about a week and a half, and the majority of players in an instance are probably lvl 13 and up. XI didn't have just one job to level in the same way you only have elemental level in Eureka, nor was it possible to get that far that fast through no-lifing. There also eventually was level sync, and even as early as WOTG they had to start adding solo friendly measures to leveling. You can't really defend this system.

Now you know why I been calling some people white knights. There is no reason to defend such flaws outside that motivation.

Uh, low levels don't "contribute nothing." If they contributed nothing, then a full team of low levels wouldn't be able to achieve gold participation in high level NMs. Healing isn't based on level or your Magia. Red Mage being able to fully revive an entire party with ease is still contributing. (Even high levels die in NMs) They will only deal less damage to NM, but participation is also based on healing. Will they get one hit by mechanics of NM? Possibly, but if they know how to dodge, their chances vastly improve. I remember doing Serket while under level and I never took damage the entire NM.

Players just seem to think only high levels offer anything to the party, when it isn't entirely true.

You are stating untrue stuff. A low level party is leeching off the higher level players that it is meant for. They are not helping to kill it at all, just doing enough to get those points. It is better then jamming one button for 3+hrs getting carpal tunnel and I do it knowing full well I am leeching, I only do so because I want to play and talk to my SO. Don't sit there and tell me doing 100 or less damage per move is "participation"

Has nothing to do with level sync. The OP stated their friend was being kicked from NM parties because of their level. You do not need to sync your level to share exp for NMs.

Since an entire party of level 10s fighting a lvl 19 NM can still achieve gold participation, there is no reason at all in the DESIGN that forces people to only play with high levels for NMs. It is purely player choice, not a flaw in Eureka's design.

Now, grinding on mobs for exp, then yes, the flaw is with Eureka's design because you need to be with a party your level or you will not get exp. However, the OP stated NM train.

Nope it is SE's fault, it is the design choice result of rushing something unfinished out. (Also I do realize they delayed it, and the irony of saying they rushed something despite delays but it is what literally happened, this content was not ready to be released. This is why SE needs to start management tools like contingency plans better. There should been some earlier stage someone should went "we can't make this work go to plan B. What we see now with diadem 3.0 is bad management, bad planning, and bad testing, while trying to force this out anyway in an unfinished state.)

[Zeonx]

Has nothing to do with level sync. The OP stated their friend was being kicked from NM parties because of their level. You do not need to sync your level to share exp for NMs.

Never said he was being kicked, said he can't get a spot because they rather have a high level LFG than a low one for train when spots open.

I also said Level 3's and 5's were in the train groups but of course that could be friends or LS FC mates getting a boost while some people are nice about it some people aren't and when someone shouts level 4 and then someone shouts a level 20 who do you think they are going to choose?

all day long and trust me he logged off after shouting for a few hours even looking in party finder, idk why you think i said he got kicked.

[SinisterJoints]

Never said he was being kicked, said he can't get a spot because they rather have a high level LFG than a low one for train when spots open.

I also said Level 3's and 5's were in the train groups but of course that could be friends or LS FC mates getting a boost while some people are nice about it some people aren't and when someone shouts level 4 and then someone shouts a level 20 who do you think they are going to choose?

all day long and trust me he logged off after shouting for a few hours even looking in party finder, idk why you think i said he got kicked.

make your own group! o.O

[Zeonx]

make your own group! o.O

He tried that no luck like I said everyone wants the train partys and no high levels will join in the group instead want spots in the high lvl one its funny to me how eureka is setup.

I remember SOA how much of a nightmare it was this reminds me of that and the very same reason I decided to quit ffxi. sure they fixed ffxi after I left but I couldnt get back into it after I came to ffxiv.

guess some people have better luck than others.

[SinisterJoints]

He tried that no luck like I said everyone wants the train partys and no high levels will join in the group instead want spots in the high lvl one its funny to me how eureka is setup.

I remember SOA how much of a nightmare it was this reminds me of that and the very same reason I decided to quit ffxi. sure they fixed ffxi after I left but I couldnt get back into it after I came to ffxiv.

guess some people have better luck than others.

every instance I join, people literally just type LFG NM -- no levels , nothing, and they get in groups

[SinisterJoints]

Do you know what level sync is? It has been in FFXI for like 8 years, there is NO EXCUSE for this place to lack it, so it is SE's fault.
https://youtu.be/kGvtpwwHoJo?t=615

there IS level sync... The question is... Do YOU know what it is?

The level sync in THIS GAME will only take a higher level and make them lower for the content. It will not take a low level and make them higher. Also it will only happen for Fates, Dungeons, Raids, Trials, etc.