Eureka Vote

[hynaku]

I vote I hate it. To much lag and disconnects. Tired of not being able to see mobs that party is attacking because there invisible and tired of invisible aoe attacks. Before can even get to fate its over and shouldn't take 3 hours to gain 1/3 of a level from grinding. I have to give it 2 thumbs down and 1/4 star rating out of 4.

[KageTokage]

I mostly like it, though something really needs to be done to reward players for activity, because I get really sick of seeing players just idling by the "train" when they could realistically be helping to kill stuff, but they ultimately miss out on almost nothing by doing nothing.

[ServerCollaps]

I mostly like it, though something really needs to be done to reward players for activity, because I get really sick of seeing players just idling by the "train" when they could realistically be helping to kill stuff, but they ultimately miss out on almost nothing by doing nothing.

mostly 3 or 4 people are enough to kill stuff faster as it respawns, everyone else couldnt help, even if they wanted to

[Pinkie_Pie]

I mostly like it, though something really needs to be done to reward players for activity, because I get really sick of seeing players just idling by the "train" when they could realistically be helping to kill stuff, but they ultimately miss out on almost nothing by doing nothing.

<Walks up and hits the mob for 16>

Yep, I'm sure helping.

[Reynhart]

Hmmm, I do not see my self as insulting though, but I do admit I am having problems replying to those that are being insulting, without being insulting myself I guess.

Even before resorting to insult, there are still some problems with some of your replies. On this very thread, the first post you made is twisted to match your point, without any relevance on how statistics work.
This poll is biased with it's "Meh, it's okay", so the only result we could analyze are the extreme sides. As of right now, the only thing that you could say is that "Among 3000 votes, 30% cleary hates it". Saying that 70% hates because only 28% have clearly said they love it is a fallacy.

But as of everything, it goes both way. If someone claimed here that 70% love it because only 30% hates it, it would have been as wrong.

Fun anecdotal fact, I've witnessed that when schools in my town changed their layout. 30% were against, 20% were for, 50% voted blank, and they changed it anyway because they considered than, since only 30% were against, 70% were for.

[MomomiMomi]

This is a terrible poll. The only options are extreme like, extreme dislike, or indifference. The indifferent option doesn't tell us whether the person is leaning more towards liking it or disliking it.

[Vstarstruck]

Even before resorting to insult, there are still some problems with some of your replies.On this very thread, the first post you made is twisted to match your point, without any relevance on how statistics work.
This poll is biased with it's "Meh, it's okay", so the only result we could analyze are the extreme sides. As of right now, the only thing that you could say is that "Among 3000 votes, 30% cleary hates it". Saying that 70% hates because only 28% have clearly said they love it is a fallacy.

But as of everything, it goes both way. If someone claimed here that 70% love it because only 30% hates it, it would have been as wrong.

Fun anecdotal fact, I've witnessed that when schools in my town changed their layout. 30% were against, 20% were for, 50% voted blank, and they changed it anyway because they considered than, since only 30% were against, 70% were for.

You have a bias against me, it is pretty clear, I explained the logic behind the meh thing. Also you are reading what I said wrong:

70% of the people clearly dislike it in some way out of 2600 now. This is why you cant trust white knight skewing and spinning facts. The other 30% clearly do not know how much we lost content wise in the game as a hole for SB, for all the resources that went into it with all the delays, a buggy fate train is not an acceptable result.

I did not say 70% absolute hated it, I said 70% dislike it in some way. If you are saying "meh it is ok" vs "i love it" you are admitting the "meh" line is admitting there is some problems with it that need improving. There is nothing wrong with what I said. You are only twisting my words to push your own personal agenda, I find that fitting for "White knight" title. (Basically you try your hardest to find something wrong that is not there, you want to speak fallacy? you pulled a strwaman.)

[Reynhart]

I did not say 70% absolute hated it, I said 70% dislike it in some way.

You're the only one who interpret "Meh, it's okay" as clearly dislike it in some way. The fun part is that you also call people who like it out with all the "content we lost", even though both ARR and HW didn't have that much more content to begin with, and Yoshida clearly said that ARR gave too much content in the first place. So like another thread, you're just assuming we missed some really good content out of nowhere.

Did you also blame Rival Wings and Ultimate Coil for "how much content we lost" ?

You have a bias against me, it is pretty clear

I have a bias against people that can't properly defend their point, and you're just doing it all the time...claiming hypothetic loses, counting likes to make it sound like you're obviously right, calling those who disagree whiteknights, the list goes on...

[Vstarstruck]

You're the only one who interpret "Meh, it's okay" as clearly dislike it in some way. The fun part is that you also call people who like it out with all the "content we lost", even though both ARR and HW didn't have that much more content to begin with, and Yoshida clearly said that ARR gave too much content in the first place. So like another thread, you're just assuming we missed some really good content out of nowhere.

Did you also blame Rival Wings and Ultimate Coil for "how much content we lost" ?

Again strawman, to push your personal agenda. I do not know, nor care about those.
However SE FLAT OUT SAID they are limiting expert dungeons out for this diadem 3.0 .. then! consider 4.1 > sigma length, 2 month loner then normal. That dry period should really tell you something.

For the first part, there is nothing wrong I said. That is just you using anything you can find to try make me look bad. If you can't say you enjoyed something, or love something, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG with what they think of said focus. This means there is improvements to be made, basically 70% find the need to want improvements to this place, its not different then saying they dislike it in some way. All I am doing is stating facts, you are word twisting.

I have a bias against people that can't properly defend their point, and you're just doing it all the time...claiming hypothetic loses, counting likes to make it sound like you're obviously right, calling those who disagree whiteknights, the list goes on...

You are the one that can't properly defend points and read what people are saying.

[ChocoFeru]

Its why you can't trust the forums, the majority of talk is from a minority of players.

Yep, that's true. The negativity comes from few players that try REALLY HARD and posts a lot, making lot of noise. I mean, look at all these negativity threads, some doesn't even make any sense.

So only a 30% hate Eureka, while the rest loves it/think it's ok. That's the truth about it. JP polls are really similar: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._about_eureka/



It's not perfect yet, but it's a nice start. We got a lot of positive stuff from Eureka:
People sharing what they find, fear of death, people interacting with each other to form/reform a party inside Eureka, new ways to level up, poppable NMs, NMs with mechanics...

I've got to play with friends again outside of raiding content, and we had lots of fun, and we keep playing still.


I can't wait for the next Eureka map, and hope they improve it and put more stuff to do!