Eureka Vote

[Lambdafish]

from 1400 votes, 2/3 are fine with it. Guess thats not as bad as people want to make it out

Its why you can't trust the forums, the majority of talk is from a minority of players.

@OP, try posting this to Reddit as well, you might get more hits that way.

[Vstarstruck]

Its why you can't trust the forums, the majority of talk is from a minority of players.

@OP, try posting this to Reddit as well, you might get more hits that way.

from 1400 votes, 2/3 are fine with it. Guess thats not as bad as people want to make it out

70% of the people clearly dislike it in some way out of 2600 now. This is why you cant trust white knight skewing and spinning facts. The other 30% clearly do not know how much we lost content wise in the game as a hole for SB, for all the resources that went into it with all the delays, a buggy fate train is not an acceptable result.

[ReplicaX]

70% of the people clearly dislike it in some way out of 2600 now. This is why you cant trust white knight skewing and spinning facts. The other 30% clearly do not know how much we lost content wise in the game as a hole for SB, for all the resources that went into it with all the delays, a buggy fate train is not an acceptable result.

Can't trust assumptions either, regardless of opinion. Half of what you mention is sadly locked behind closed doors with SE holding the keys.

[ServerCollaps]

70% of the people clearly dislike it in some way out of 2600 now. This is why you cant trust white knight skewing and spinning facts. The other 30% clearly do not know how much we lost content wise in the game as a hole for SB, for all the resources that went into it with all the delays, a buggy fate train is not an acceptable result.

when I'm "okay" with stuff, then I dont dislike it

so, in my opinion, 70% like it and only 30% are mad

[Mahrze]

70% of the people clearly dislike it in some way out of 2600 now. This is why you cant trust white knight skewing and spinning facts. The other 30% clearly do not know how much we lost content wise in the game as a hole for SB, for all the resources that went into it with all the delays, a buggy fate train is not an acceptable result.

Whatever a the opposite of a white knight is, is what I get form you. You keep adding the "content we lost". We can't lose something we never got. Lost resources invested perhaps? Unlikely without info on how the team was shifted. Ironic that you say 70% clearly dislike when 1/3 or to be more acurate, 4/10 don't care much. where as 3/10 are more or less struggling to one up eachother on the love/hate camps. Don't complain about how they skew "facts" if you just did the same in the same sentence.

iow, you're being "insane" by the same standards you used on another thread. Spewing the same repeated verbiage won't get us anywhere when facts are nowhere on both sides. Again, to state being factual, we need info on exactly how anything is happening, instead of misconstrued interpretations that come from confirmation bias.

[Shouko]

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70% of the people on the forums that tend to go with monkey see monkey do? People on the net are known for being caught up in the vote one way or another for stupid things all the time. Go look at youtube and see how many idiotic comments or upvotes some idiotic channel has.

Stop trying so hard it's ok, life will go on the game will continue, feedback has been registered with them, whether they take it to heart or not is the question. We can't control them other than not providing them with money and I mean that includes everything from the cash shop to the subs to retainers, if you guys were truly this unhappy about it you would speak with your wallets and not your words.

[Vstarstruck]

Even before resorting to insult, there are still some problems with some of your replies.On this very thread, the first post you made is twisted to match your point, without any relevance on how statistics work.
This poll is biased with it's "Meh, it's okay", so the only result we could analyze are the extreme sides. As of right now, the only thing that you could say is that "Among 3000 votes, 30% cleary hates it". Saying that 70% hates because only 28% have clearly said they love it is a fallacy.

But as of everything, it goes both way. If someone claimed here that 70% love it because only 30% hates it, it would have been as wrong.

Fun anecdotal fact, I've witnessed that when schools in my town changed their layout. 30% were against, 20% were for, 50% voted blank, and they changed it anyway because they considered than, since only 30% were against, 70% were for.

You have a bias against me, it is pretty clear, I explained the logic behind the meh thing. Also you are reading what I said wrong:

70% of the people clearly dislike it in some way out of 2600 now. This is why you cant trust white knight skewing and spinning facts. The other 30% clearly do not know how much we lost content wise in the game as a hole for SB, for all the resources that went into it with all the delays, a buggy fate train is not an acceptable result.

I did not say 70% absolute hated it, I said 70% dislike it in some way. If you are saying "meh it is ok" vs "i love it" you are admitting the "meh" line is admitting there is some problems with it that need improving. There is nothing wrong with what I said. You are only twisting my words to push your own personal agenda, I find that fitting for "White knight" title. (Basically you try your hardest to find something wrong that is not there, you want to speak fallacy? you pulled a strwaman.)

[Reynhart]

I did not say 70% absolute hated it, I said 70% dislike it in some way.

You're the only one who interpret "Meh, it's okay" as clearly dislike it in some way. The fun part is that you also call people who like it out with all the "content we lost", even though both ARR and HW didn't have that much more content to begin with, and Yoshida clearly said that ARR gave too much content in the first place. So like another thread, you're just assuming we missed some really good content out of nowhere.

Did you also blame Rival Wings and Ultimate Coil for "how much content we lost" ?

You have a bias against me, it is pretty clear

I have a bias against people that can't properly defend their point, and you're just doing it all the time...claiming hypothetic loses, counting likes to make it sound like you're obviously right, calling those who disagree whiteknights, the list goes on...

[Vstarstruck]

You're the only one who interpret "Meh, it's okay" as clearly dislike it in some way. The fun part is that you also call people who like it out with all the "content we lost", even though both ARR and HW didn't have that much more content to begin with, and Yoshida clearly said that ARR gave too much content in the first place. So like another thread, you're just assuming we missed some really good content out of nowhere.

Did you also blame Rival Wings and Ultimate Coil for "how much content we lost" ?

Again strawman, to push your personal agenda. I do not know, nor care about those.
However SE FLAT OUT SAID they are limiting expert dungeons out for this diadem 3.0 .. then! consider 4.1 > sigma length, 2 month loner then normal. That dry period should really tell you something.

For the first part, there is nothing wrong I said. That is just you using anything you can find to try make me look bad. If you can't say you enjoyed something, or love something, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG with what they think of said focus. This means there is improvements to be made, basically 70% find the need to want improvements to this place, its not different then saying they dislike it in some way. All I am doing is stating facts, you are word twisting.

I have a bias against people that can't properly defend their point, and you're just doing it all the time...claiming hypothetic loses, counting likes to make it sound like you're obviously right, calling those who disagree whiteknights, the list goes on...

You are the one that can't properly defend points and read what people are saying.

[Reynhart]

However SE FLAT OUT SAID they are limiting expert dungeons out for this diadem 3.0 ..

They said they're limiting Expert Dungeons in odd patches because each odd patch will have a new and different content.

The current plan for what these patches will contain is odd numbered patches will have one dungeon and some other new content while even numbered patches will have two new dungeons and QOL improvements.

And Eureka was never confirmed for 4.1

Yes. It is going to be linked with Eureka, so it’s not exactly on 4.15, we’re saying “on or beyond 4.15.” We’re not confirming the timing yet.

Twist again, you'll find juice...

This means there is improvements to be made, basically 70% find the need to want improvements to this place, its not different then saying they dislike it in some way.

Then I guess 70% clearly like it in some way since they can't say they hate it. Now what ?

EDIT : Oh ! Now I understand ! Since I don't think Eureka is perfect (The lack of level-sync) I shouldn't have the rigth to vote that "I like it"...my bad...I hope it doesn't show the utter nonsense of your assumption based on the poll result...
Let me help you a little more. I think very few people think Eureka has absolutely no flaw at all, so we're probably close to 100% people disliking Eureka "in some way". Feel good now ?