Lily a little unnecessary?

[basketofseals]

I like lilies. They're a nice little comeback mechanic if you die or run out of mana through other means.

They only seemed so tacked on because healers don't really heal much. If you've done high level pulling in Eureka, you'll get a lot of use out of them.

[IttyBitty]

I like lilies. They're a nice little comeback mechanic if you die or run out of mana through other means.

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Lilies have no appreciable positive impact on your mana pool. You're not saving much mana with a ~12s recast reduction on a select few oGCDs, especially when you're spending mana to generate them in the first place.

[basketofseals]

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Lilies have no appreciable positive impact on your mana pool. You're not saving much mana with a ~12s recast reduction on a select few oGCDs, especially when you're spending mana to generate them in the first place.

If you get smashed into the face with magic hammer or just die at an inopportune time, then you're going to be casting a lot more cure 1s than normal. 20% off on 4 oGCDs can go a long way when you're treading water.

[Cheremia]

If you get smashed into the face with magic hammer or just die at an inopportune time, then you're going to be casting a lot more cure 1s than normal. 20% off on 4 oGCDs can go a long way when you're treading water.

But Medica, Medica 2, Cure 3 and Assize want to have a word with you?
And no,a ssize does nto care about lillies

How many people do you heal with cure 1 instead of using 1 Cure 2 on each? Or, aoe heal. Where ARE these people if you can't hit them with aoes?

[Mimilu]

But Medica, Medica 2, Cure 3 and Assize want to have a word with you?
And no,a ssize does nto care about lillies

How many people do you heal with cure 1 instead of using 1 Cure 2 on each? Or, aoe heal. Where ARE these people if you can't hit them with aoes?

There's also Regen and Asylum too.
Never underestimate the power of a good HoT.

[basketofseals]

But Medica, Medica 2, Cure 3 and Assize want to have a word with you?
And no,a ssize does nto care about lillies

How many people do you heal with cure 1 instead of using 1 Cure 2 on each? Or, aoe heal. Where ARE these people if you can't hit them with aoes?

If you died at an inopportune time, such as just after popping lucid dreaming, then I am not even speaking the same language as cure 3. You should definitely be priming your lilies for assize in that situation because nothing is less efficient than being unable to do anything because you have no mana.

Perhaps if you actually took the time to actually read what I wrote instead of inserting your completely unrelated hypthoticals you could actually have an argument. /salt

[Mimilu]

If you died at an inopportune time, such as just after popping lucid dreaming, then I am not even speaking the same language as cure 3. You should definitely be priming your lilies for assize in that situation because nothing is less efficient than being unable to do anything because you have no mana.

Why prime 3 Lilies to use Assize when you can just use Assize normally? Especially if you just got rezed and need MP (and maybe help heal the party)?
If you're priming all 3 Lilies before every ability effected by them, then you're just over-healing and wasting MP.
Or are you holding on to the abilities, waiting til you get enough Lilies? That's just adding extra stress for yourself.

[Cheremia]

The thing is: I died after using lucid. Every whm did at one point or another.
Every whm also died after using thin air.
But you usually should rotate them around so one or the other SHOULD be up after a res. Or at least close to being up.

Then i use tetra+regen on myself if needed. Then i protect. then i make sure I survive FIRST.
At NO point EVER, did i think about the lillies first. The only time was cure1/2+divine bension on big trash pulls in dungeons. For tank buster? Used after healing them (if i didn't use tetra for the buster) and even that was not needed.
Now that i don't need lillies anymore i care even less about them.

They did not change my playstyle at all and will never do so.
If emergencies happen, i will cure people after i res them(or got ressed) but if they're stupid and move instead of waiting and NOT instantly dying again they're not top priority anymore.

I don't know where lillies should change ANYTHING on skills you don't use when they're off cooldown usually... Like the only skill would be Assize if you know you don't use it on an aoe. But where to even GET them from? I heal with medica2 most of the time...

Also no, i do not forget about regen and asylum. Asylum sees not a LOT of uses (I'm actually trying to use it more at the moment because i'm a lazy holy main). But i try to have regen ups on tanks almost all of the time (even in raids if the tank isn't mine)

It's just... if you try to play for lillies you might be surprised: Everything works out just fine without them. The amount of times i hit 3 WILLINGLY... i can count on one hand.
Other times it was healing other alliances in raids... or on mega trashpulls where i'm forced to heal because the tank has tissue armor... but like, planned? Like... never?