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  1. #41
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    It'll die pretty quick as people get what they need. SE not only doesn't encourage you to party with your friends but it punishes you for doing so with the level limit restriction preventing lower levels from getting xp with higher levels, and providing no way to sync down.
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 03-20-2018 at 06:48 AM.

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    Aisha Clan-clan
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilanFrozen View Post
    I'll wager that one content patch from now will severely damage Eureka participation. Two and it will effectively be dead.

    Why? Because most will have what they want. Any new content they add will undoubtedly favor higher levels and higher level players will not be interested in leveling low level players.

    Unless they force more relic pieces/items into Eureka. Then it will be another boom of dissatisfied players complaining because they have to do it.
    I’ve been 20 since day 3, added people lower than 10 and have been PFing daily leveling. I doubt that I’m the only person in the world doing this content helping people level.
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  3. #43
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    I think that there are so many ways to make it last. Add a mount in for doing X amount of NMS, add crafting mats to things. There is SO much they can do I don't know if I trust them to make it work though... The rewards are really scant right now, not really any achievement other than for the relics! Why did we not get one for killing every NM? There is like no reason so spawn Amarok or Lemashtu.
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    They've hinted they want to do something with achievements so that might be a reason for the suspicious lack of achievements
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    It'll die pretty quick as people get what they need. SE not only doesn't encourage you to party with your friends but it punishes you for doing so with the level limit restriction preventing lower levels from getting xp with higher levels, and providing no way to sycn down.
    Fate EXP is the same regardless of party composition.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Fate EXP is the same regardless of party composition.
    Yes, because FATES sync you down. They need to have the same ability in parties, so you can join up with your friends no matter what level you are and have a viable exp option besides the FATE train.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Yes, because FATES sync you down. They need to have the same ability in parties, so you can join up with your friends no matter what level you are and have a viable exp option besides the FATE train.
    Grinding trash was never and will never be a good option while fate EXP remains this high.
    The number of trash to kill in order to spawn a fate is related to the number of people in the instance.

    In short, there's absolutly no reason not to go for fates, regardless if there's a train or not.

    Edit: Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with your underlying opinion regarding the fact that trash farming isn't a viable option (which applies to the issue you mentionned, but also for solo playing). It's just that your first assessment of high level players not being able to group with lower level ones was false in the sense that they could still take the currently most effective route of earning EXP in Eureka. So, getting EXP isn't an issue. But the lack of viable options and the missed opportunity to allow for trash grind definitly is a concern. Although I'm not sure on how big the part of the community who wants to kill trash mobs all day is.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 03-20-2018 at 07:16 AM.

  8. #48
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Grinding trash was never and will never be a good option while fate EXP remains this high.
    The number of trash to kill in order to spawn a fate is related to the number of people in the instance.

    In short, there's absolutly no reason not to go for fates, regardless if there's a train or not.
    Actually it is frequently better to grind exp in between fate spawns as with the large number of players doing the NM trains and low level mobs you get no EXP. Instead while the zerg fest to spawn the NM is going on heading off to kill mobs that give you chained exp is a better use of time. Once the NM pops you return to play the fate.
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  9. #49
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Many people won't be able to endure prolonged grinding. I've tanked those kind of grinding pulls, and its wearying, especially when you need to stun a mob with every single pull due to its aoe or cleave attack. There's a reason why trash in dungeons is spread out.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    Actually it is frequently better to grind exp in between fate spawns as with the large number of players doing the NM trains and low level mobs you get no EXP. Instead while the zerg fest to spawn the NM is going on heading off to kill mobs that give you chained exp is a better use of time. Once the NM pops you return to play the fate.
    Yes, but only in the current context of a fate train making NM pops for you.
    When/If Eureka dies out, there will most likely be no fate train to carry you around. Players will have to make their fates spawn themselves with a very low number of players. And since the number of trash kills needed to make a fate appear will reduced, you won't really "grind" them before the fate appears.
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