Will Eureka last?

[illgot]

I don't think it will. It's already slowing down and becoming harder to find decent groups.

Once people stop using it, you'll rarely find full groups willing to grind for hours to unlock everything and most of the people I talk to now are only doing it because they know it will be dead content in a month.

[Zeonx]

No it won't last.

Here is the reasons.

1. when people get high level they don't want to help low levels.
2. Like number 1 it will lead to having people left behind like FFXI it will be a catch up game and after a while they just give up on trying.
3. If they add content it and the people who struggle to catch up decided to stick to it for the ones who were trying to help friends will end up doing the new content further ditching people.

I seen this first hand in FFXI some people love the grind but for the ones who work will be left in the dust.

[Sylvina]

No it won't last.

Here is the reasons.

1. when people get high level they don't want to help low levels.
2. Like number 1 it will lead to having people left behind like FFXI it will be a catch up game and after a while they just give up on trying.
3. If they add content it and the people who struggle to catch up decided to stick to it for the ones who were trying to help friends will end up doing the new content further ditching people.

I seen this first hand in FFXI some people love the grind but for the ones who work will be left in the dust.

This could be solved by adding some sort of effective incentive for grouping with low levels.

[Tridus]

1. when people get high level they don't want to help low levels.

When people get high level, they can't help low levels. The level gap causes the low levels to get literally zero XP from all normal mobs in the place.

It's not a matter of want. Eureka's design flat out punishes your group for helping once the gap gets to a certain point. It's exactly as pants on head stupid as it sounds.

[Claviusnex]

When people get high level, they can't help low levels. The level gap causes the low levels to get literally zero XP from all normal mobs in the place.

It's not a matter of want. Eureka's design flat out punishes your group for helping once the gap gets to a certain point. It's exactly as pants on head stupid as it sounds.

Right. There should be an ability to group sync or just phase out exp the higher the level you are and keep them for lower players only. In fact I wouldn't mind helping lower level folks power level if I knew they would get full credit.

[Maero]

When people get high level, they can't help low levels. The level gap causes the low levels to get literally zero XP from all normal mobs in the place.

It's not a matter of want. Eureka's design flat out punishes your group for helping once the gap gets to a certain point. It's exactly as pants on head stupid as it sounds.

Well this may explain why none want me in their groups as i am a little level 8..

[Wrothgar77]

Well this may explain why none want me in their groups as i am a little level 8..

Yeah, this was a huge slap once I went as a lvl 17 to help my lvl 4 son and he got squat. That is very annoying.

[Fyce]

When people get high level, they can't help low levels. The level gap causes the low levels to get literally zero XP from all normal mobs in the place.

It's not a matter of want. Eureka's design flat out punishes your group for helping once the gap gets to a certain point. It's exactly as pants on head stupid as it sounds.

Why don't you consider the possibility of high level players making low level FATEs spawn in no time for low level players to get insane EXP? Why would grouping be exclusively for grinding trash and nothing else? FATEs themselves are enough to get to twenty in no time without the need to get trash XP at all.
I get that trash exp + FATE exp is the optimal way, but FATE exp alone is already good enough. So, if you can't get the "best" option, why not settle for the "good" one, which will get the job done anyway?

[LaylaTsarra]

Why don't you consider the possibility of high level players making low level FATEs spawn in no time for low level players to get insane EXP? Why would grouping be exclusively for grinding trash and nothing else? FATEs themselves are enough to get to twenty in no time without the need to get trash XP at all.
I get that trash exp + FATE exp is the optimal way, but FATE exp alone is already good enough. So, if you can't get the "best" option, why not settle for the "good" one, which will get the job done anyway?

I don't think SE expected a train and I would venture to guess that will be changing soon enough as they modify how experience is awarded in the future. And yeah I've done nothing but train on an alt and couldn't understand why I couldn't do the level 3 quest. It was because i never got a protean crystal and I had reached level 6.

[Jxnibbles]

I agree I don't think it will last. After getting to level 17 you have enough crystals for a set, by 19 you will have your weapon if you do zuzu. After a set most people are generally only going to grind for glamour once they are done with that what else do they work towards?

Obviously some players will obtain a second set. Some will even obtain all the sets but at that point the pool of players gets even shorter.

Diadem is only being done because of Relics. If relics were somewhere else I am pretty sure the amount of players willing to run Diadem will be alot less..

Relics is what is holding this version of diadem together.