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  1. #31
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    I m also a casual and I have no time for Eureka. My 2 hours per day are limited to reaching my tomes cap, leveling my alts and beat Sigma Savage via PF as much as i can (no, I m not a Raider). I m not interested in mindless mashing mobs for 2 hours. Not for that gear. Not in content which was promised as "something new".
    You can get 300 to 400 crystals in 2hrs in Eureka. This is without all the NM conditions found yet. This is utilizing NM grinding which isn't mindless non-NM spawning trash mob grinds.

    Honestly if your time is limited, no optional Relic regardless of it being ARR, HW SB, or future installments "on content" is for you. It would be more appropriate for you to do it at the end of expansion, all nerfs added, and benefit having one of the best weapons of that expansion, which can be carried forward 5-8+ lvls hitting the next lvl cap in the next expansion.
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  2. #32
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    Weapons in there are even weaker so you’re severely gimping yourself.
    Don't all relic weapons start out lower than anything else that has been released at that point? Pretty sure the HW relic was lower than the highest available when it started.
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  3. #33
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    Skylar Spirit
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    Ouch

    Guys i never ment for this threat to be hostile lol. I am simply stating i am not enjoying the content they have but forth from 4.1 and dont see what i enjoy being worked on. I know its 100 percent optional and im sure some guy out there enjoys it. I feel like the content i enjoy is being pushed to the back burner and im letting SE know with my money their mistakes. Money speaks
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  4. #34
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    ChameleonMS's Avatar
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    Jordan O'niell
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darty123 View Post
    Remember what the players like, we love the thrill of dodging mechanics and learning, weaving in rotations in difficult situations, the crazy clutch healer or tank limit breaks the synergy and teamwork needed to bring down the realms worst foes.
    Ummm... raiders like these things. Last time I checked (the Lucky Bancho unofficial census), only around 10% of player base really likes these things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darty123 View Post
    We do not like Mob Mashers eureka.
    You are mostly correct that Diadem showed us that. The rewards and levelling structure of Eureka are better than Diadem and should improve its' longevity vs Diadem.
    Cancelling your sub over this content means it just time for you to take a break. I reached that point last year and took 6 months off. Sounds like you need to do the same.
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  5. #35
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    Millerna Astor
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Remember Amdapor Keep and the notorious Demon Wall (before the nerf)! Damn, this boss showed you if you deserve your relic ^^.
    Demon wall was easy as long as the bees were taken care of and not allowed to kill the healer. Then again, enough people thought it was too difficult, so they removed the bees completely o.O

    Also, a lot of the dungeons seemed more difficult because you were generally doing them with your iLvl being around the minimum iLvl for the dungeon. With the new dungeons, you're generally already well over the minimum iLvl requirement, on top of them being generally somewhat easier in general.
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  6. #36
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    Mihn Saruihn
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    You can get 300 to 400 crystals in 2hrs in Eureka. This is without all the NM conditions found yet. This is utilizing NM grinding which isn't mindless non-NM spawning trash mob grinds.

    Honestly if your time is limited, no optional Relic regardless of it being ARR, HW SB, or future installments "on content" is for you. It would be more appropriate for you to do it at the end of expansion, all nerfs added, and benefit having one of the best weapons of that expansion, which can be carried forward 5-8+ lvls hitting the next lvl cap in the next expansion.
    Really? I must be having terrible luck cause I did 1 NM and played for 2 hours on my first day and walked out with 16 crystals. >_>;;
    I also did the HW relic just fine doing each step before it was nerfed. I too have playtime of 1-2 hours a day.
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  7. #37
    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronys View Post
    So only people who have been there since the early beta days of 1.0 can have an opinion? Wow. You must not get out much.
    Actually no people who are not ignorant and give content a chance have an opinion that can somewhat make sense. Being legacy and sticking with the company through it's ups and downs is just icing on the cake. Having a JOB that pays well, gives you free time, and is actually fun to work at gives you options. Having a gamer GF helps, investments, and when your job involves gaming is even more fun. I can actually play FFXIV on the go, traveling, so yeah I have plenty of time playing and traveling. Rather than work a 9-5 job watching the clock .... if that is not getting out much, yeah then I really don't have no life.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    Really? I must be having terrible luck cause I did 1 NM and played for 2 hours on my first day and walked out with 16 crystals. >_>;;
    I also did the HW relic just fine doing each step before it was nerfed. I too have playtime of 1-2 hours a day.
    RNG .. I never got passed the Atma step of the ARR relic, because I got really unlucky on the 3rd or 4th one, took well over 100 fates to get it, and fates aren't my favourite type of content to say the least ..
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  9. #39
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    You can get 300 to 400 crystals in 2hrs in Eureka. This is without all the NM conditions found yet. This is utilizing NM grinding which isn't mindless non-NM spawning trash mob grinds.

    Honestly if your time is limited, no optional Relic regardless of it being ARR, HW SB, or future installments "on content" is for you. It would be more appropriate for you to do it at the end of expansion, all nerfs added, and benefit having one of the best weapons of that expansion, which can be carried forward 5-8+ lvls hitting the next lvl cap in the next expansion.
    Its not about how much crystal I got within 2 hrs. Its about HOW you get them. I wouldnt complain if its fun to farm them. But actually, its just camping and/or zerging. For 2 hours straight. Mindless monster mashing. Nothing really challenging, only time consuming.

    And to be honest: it was very possible to get your anima-weapon in HW, even within 2 hours per day. Some steps took some time, but overall it was ok. Most steps can be done while doing something else. All those things changed with Eureka. So yes, I m gonna wait until SE nerfed it to the ground or just ignoring it.
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    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
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    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  10. #40
    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseTraveller View Post
    Really? I must be having terrible luck cause I did 1 NM and played for 2 hours on my first day and walked out with 16 crystals. >_>;;
    I also did the HW relic just fine doing each step before it was nerfed. I too have playtime of 1-2 hours a day.
    Have you tried forming a NM train group? or ever joined one? Is rather fun and fast leveling you can normally get close to 200+ big crystals in one full time. and 100-150 minor ones depending on NM pops. Minimum you ant to be level 5 and have 3 magicites. For the first couple of levels you can duo or 3 man to level 3 pretty fast and 4-5 in group with mobs over +4-5 levels.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 03-15-2018 at 11:40 PM.

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