Concern on the current state of FFXIV, and future content

[execool]

I feel that people who have not played WoW, or have and didn't like it, should at the very least look to one of their fan sites. Wowhead...

Whew, WoW is ugly as ever, and no controller support yet I see... their crafting system seems thin... thanks for the link, but I just don't get the appeal. I have heard that their glamour system is pretty nice though. I did not have a very positive experience player-interaction wise in WoW though, so I am reluctant to be won over.

Everyone has a right to complain though, the purpose of the forums is to alert the devs to player issues. I kind of wish WoW wasn't the model here though. A coworker described KOTOR online to me, and some stuff in that sounded interesting. I am still having a ton of fun in the game though, so sprouts like me are not the target audience of this post I think. I am sad the old timers are all up in arms though, and I hope the devs are able to alleviate their pain in some way

Thanks!

[Vahlnir]

Thanks!

I can't fault anyone who doesn't like it, just like some people don't like this game. Everyone has different tastes and preferences. But I will stand by the fact that it did a good many things right even if it's not as "pretty" as XIV. And yes, the player base there is a bit more hostile. More players playing = more jerks though. That's one of the prices of popularity. Yoshi did use WoW as sort of an inspiration for XIV when he redid things, just as an fyi. Not an exact copy nor should it be. But ARR had some similarities to WoW to start. At this point, 2 expansions later, I don't know what it is anymore. The devs don't seem to know either.

[Darkdesiree]

@execool

This is not entirely accurate WoW has an amazing add on for controller support I know because when I played I used it religiously.

[execool]

I can't fault anyone who doesn't like it....

I have definitely met tons of great players who came from WoW, and I know plenty of people like the more cartoony style of it. As the OP pointed out, and I think you can see in that doc about the revamp of 1.0, FF picked up a lot of stuff from WoW, so I certainly appreciate that it exists! Thanks for replying!

[execool]

@execool

This is not entirely accurate WoW has an amazing add on for controller support I know because when I played I used it religiously.

I think I heard something about this... is it xpadder? I have a lot of people give me a hard time even in this game over using a controller though, so I would be worried about being given a hard time over there since there is no first party support

[Darkdesiree]

I think I heard something about this... is it xpadder? I have a lot of people give me a hard time even in this game over using a controller though, so I would be worried about being given a hard time over there since there is no first party support

Yes!!! And do not let people give you a hard time over this games controller layout it is really nice. KB/M or Controller is personal preference. Many late game raiders even use it.

[AnakhaSilver]

I don't know what people even want anymore. I've been here years, and every single time SE has tried something Different And New, the playerbase has pretty much hated it. But then, when they stick to formula, which MMOs live and die by, they complain, too. The devs just can't win at this point.

What the heck DO you guys want besides the nebulous "something creative and new?" Because Square sure has tried. People were asking for a very generic "let me do something more with my minions" and so added Lord of Verminion... But because Square didn't read their minds, the hated it. They asked for a harder raid difficulty, and then Ultimate came and people whined it was locked or Too Hard or Too Random. Asked for glamour to be redone, it's in the process of it and the preliminary stuff has been released and people complain about THAT. And I just sit here and watch and wonder what people ACTUALLY WANT because nothing seems to satisfy beyond "completely new game each expansion."

[execool]

Yes!!! And do not let people give you a hard time over this games controller layout it is really nice. KB/M or Controller is personal preference. Many late game raiders even use it.

Thanks!!! I will keep that in mind! Since you said that, if I ever get burnt out on FF maybe I will try it out again!

[Vahlnir]

I don't know what people even want anymore. I've been here years, and every single time SE has tried something Different And New, the playerbase has pretty much hated it. But then, when they stick to formula, which MMOs live and die by, they complain, too. The devs just can't win at this point.

Last time they tried something new was in HW. Diadem and Lords of Verminion. Diadem was a colossal failure. LoV...I'd honestly just say it's not for everyone, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a failure. So what did they do? They gave us Diadem: Reborn. It didn't go any better. PotD was out before that though, and I'd say it was at least received fairly well. People still do it. Fast forward to now...they haven't done anything new really other than delay Eureka. Same formula, same grinds, same rewards, just with a shiny new coat of paint. There have been some boss fights with interesting mechanics though, thanks for that dev team. Rabanastre was fun, but it wasn't really new. It was another 24 man raid. After being delayed multiple times, and knowing full well that Diadem sucked...they released Eureka, with PotD lock boxes (no issue with those really), and Diadem-style play. With some horribly done XI elements tacked on. They had 17-ish months to do something great, and all they did was recycle past content and roll it into an admittedly beautiful, but shallow package.

[Remedi]

POtd was not received fairly well it was mixed especially the first section which only had the weapon and the levelling aspect