What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Vstarstruck]

Now that we learned more about Eureka, we know that:
- Leveling is easy.
- Farming currency for the relic is also easy.
- Death penalties can be prevented if you take care, use Bind/Sleep on linked mobs and have a good party setup to raise (have 2 healers and 1 RDM, for example)

I bet we will see a relic done today, even faster than other relics.



People wanted to farm the relic with repetitive stuff such as FATE grind, dungeon grind, primals grind etc... I find Eureka more entertaining, since it let's you choose how you want to level up. And as you level up, things gets a lot easier and the farm becomes faster exponentially.

We're too used to have things NOW and FAST. People stressed up the first day because Eureka required a little time to understand it's mechanics.


So, hating Eureka is just a meme. Stand up and improve :3

I did not come to the forums for a meme, I came to the forums to show my voice that waiting for 6 months on this no content existing place should not be something to be proud of. It is diadem stripped away some extras it offered. There is nothing new to it, there is nothing innovative about it, it is flat out boring with outdated gear as rewards.

[ChocoFeru]

Okay, I understand how the leveling works. But it's still poorly designed concept. What if I get behind? How do I catch up? Hope for lowbie parties? They are plenty now but won't be for much longer. I cant tag with higher level parties because I hardly get exp and everything can one shot me in their hunting ground. I can't progress much solo, I can't do much with NMs when they are higher level, congestion aside, you are likely to die just getting to it.

There is no choice but to slave over this while the content is active or not do it at all.

You can join higher level parties. We had a lvl3 Scholar yesterday and we were all lv 8-9, we killed stuff and did some NMs and the Scholar leveled up to lv6 in an hour. There's space for everyone if they accept you, and so far you can go to higher level parties as a healer, since you will heal the same numbers no matter your level.

If you don't have a healer, then yeah, you might need to level up with people from your level. Shout or make a PF with people around your level, and solved.
Still, with a party of 4 you can level up fast and do all NMs without any problem. There's no need to be 8 members!

Every content gets old when time passes, like new PVP maps for example, when the first day the queue is 5 minutes, and weeks after it takes hours to pop.

I did not come to the forums for a meme, I came to the forums to show my voice that waiting for 6 months on this no content existing place should not be something to be proud of. It is diadem stripped away some extras it offered. There is nothing new to it, there is nothing innovative about it, it is flat out boring with outdated gear as rewards.

Gear will always be outdated. Every single relic was outdated. Raid gear will always be the top one, we knew that since 2.0.

And it's not Diadem, not even close. In Eureka you have your own level, and NMs spawns when you pop them (not just random FATEs like Diadem).

And it might look pretty simple, but you can use that to summarize FFXIV's content as well; "it's all about leveling up and gear up, this is so boring!"


Maybe the problem is that you don't like the game? What do you expect from an MMORPG, or what did you want Eureka to be?

[KyokuhoKensaki]

You can join higher level parties. We had a lvl3 Scholar yesterday and we were all lv 8-9, we killed stuff and did some NMs and the Scholar leveled up to lv6 in an hour. There's space for everyone if they accept you, and so far you can go to higher level parties as a healer, since you will heal the same numbers no matter your level.

If you don't have a healer, then yeah, you might need to level up with people from your level. Shout or make a PF with people around your level, and solved.
Still, with a party of 4 you can level up fast and do all NMs without any problem. There's no need to be 8 members!

Every content gets old when time passes, like new PVP maps for example, when the first day the queue is 5 minutes, and weeks after it takes hours to pop.

So uh, how much are you getting paid to shill this?

[BillyKaplan]

Every content gets old when time passes, like new PVP maps for example, when the first day the queue is 5 minutes, and weeks after it takes hours to pop.

And you make that sound like it's not an issue. I have two Anima weapons at Lux. I could do them whenever the hell I wanted because the content they required was completely detached and general. If it's not this dungeon it's that dungeon and I have daily and weekly quests to help me along. Granted that's post nerfs but the core concept holds - past relics were without context which means they could be done at any point a player chooses. Eureka kills that because unless they nerf it to the ground (which I imagine they ultimately will, they HAVE to with how it's built) and let monsters your level or even lower drop the items at an increased rate so you can actually complete this solo within your next three lifetimes, anyone who joins after the initial hype will never be able to get those items. Between the horrible grind and how outdated the awards will be, Eureka was not designed to last even with the glamours beying dyable, and that's horrible design no matter how enjoyable you find the content to be. Anything really worth anything being untradable will further kill it because it can't even be used as a source of revenue

[ChocoFeru]

And you make that sound like it's not an issue. I have two Anima weapons at Lux. I could do them whenever the hell I wanted because the content they required was completely detached and general. If it's not this dungeon it's that dungeon and I have daily and weekly quests to help me along. Granted that's post nerfs but the core concept holds - past relics were without context which means they could be done at any point a player chooses. Eureka kills that because unless they nerf it to the ground (which I imagine they ultimately will, they HAVE to with how it's built) and let monsters your level or even lower drop the items at an increased rate so you can actually complete this solo within your lifetime, anyone who joins after the initial hype will never be able to get those items. Between the horrible grind and how outdated the awards will be (I'm actually psyched for the +2 BLM weapon so I can't pitch in on the complaints about outdated gear), Eureka was not designed to last and that's horrible design no matter how enjoyable you find the content to be.

You can always make a PF to find people and do it. You can kill a NM with a party of 4, since the NM syncs up to the number of people fighting it.

It doesn't seem really hard, IMO, and I bet there will be always somebody on Eureka.

So uh, how much are you getting paid to shill this?

>Can't Answer properly
>Continues the meme


Ahhh... now THIS is boring.

[BillyKaplan]

I bet there will be always somebody on Eureka.

Very, very dangerous assumption.

[Jojoya]

I'm pretty sure he was saying you're supposed to just AFK in town until a NM spawns, like all the other cool kids are doing.

Makes you wish SE would add a buff from mob farming that impacts the reward for the NM. It's getting to be a tiresome trend in MMOs where people can put in a minimum of effort and still get the best rewards for showing up at the right moment.

[ChocoFeru]

Very, very dangerous assumption.

If there's people doing Diadem still (promise you, they farm the pets for profit) I bet Eureka will keep going on for a long time since we will need it for the next relic steps.

Makes you wish SE would add a buff from mob farming that impacts the reward for the NM. It's getting to be a tiresome trend in MMOs where people can put in a minimum of effort and still get the best rewards for showing up at the right moment.

Farming mobs to pop a NM gives you some EXP and crystals, so AFKing on the base is a slow method I think.
But yeah, people will always do that. A buff to farmers would be great, but I really don't care about leechers!

[EmmaVirgin]

I bet there will be always somebody on Eureka.

do you tryed to get into the diadem in last few month? i bet not.

[ChocoFeru]

do you tryed to get into the diadem in last few month? i bet not.

Yeah, with the FC Airship, and there were people farming stuff to get the pets (Hawk pet I guess).

There's no other real reason to do Diadem right now anyways, it's an old lv60 content. Eureka on the other hand is a content tied up with the relic, that's why I think it'll be relevant longer than Diadem.