What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Fynlar]

I had more fun farming Alexander 1 Savage for lights than I did this. At least there I had mechanics to do.

I'm sorry, but what mechanics? From my experience pretty much everything except Photon Spaser and Resin Bomb (first is pretty standard line aoe, second only becomes a little more important if the fight drags on way longer than it should) was skipped entirely. Faust is still Faust, as always.

[Starkbeaumont]

unless SE makes leveling much easier in the future it feels like if you don't Eureka now you'll probably never gonna do it. once most ppl hit 20 they will probably only farm the highest level NMs and everything below might become dead.

as with all relic quests you can expect nerfs at one point though.

to me eureka still doesn't feel right even though i grinded brayflox hard for the first relic. i guess grind can take many shapes and formes and not all can be enjoyable.

[Fyce]

This is just bash your face against a mob endlessly. It's mindless and terrible.

You're doing it wrong.

[Vstarstruck]

Something I will not do unless I have a friend interested in it.

[Fhaerron]

DCing at 2% on an NM and getting nothing. Why is the game like this?

Same way that you also loose your position in the LFD and need to re-queu when you DC while in other MMO's when you DC you resume your position if you log back in within x amount of minutes.

Eerm I guess we can blame #serverlimitations?

[KyokuhoKensaki]

You're doing it wrong.

Not really? That's basically what you do in Eureka unless a NM spawns. :v

[Fynlar]

I'm pretty sure he was saying you're supposed to just AFK in town until a NM spawns, like all the other cool kids are doing.

[ChocoFeru]

Now that we learned more about Eureka, we know that:

- Leveling is easy.
- Farming currency for the relic is also easy.
- Death penalties can be prevented if you take care, use Bind/Sleep on linked mobs and have a good party setup to raise (have 2 healers and 1 RDM, for example)

I bet we will see a relic done today, even faster than other relics.



People wanted to farm the relic with repetitive stuff such as FATE grind, dungeon grind, primals grind etc... I find Eureka more entertaining, since it let's you choose how you want to level up. And as you level up, things gets a lot easier and the farm becomes faster exponentially.

We're too used to have things NOW and FAST. People stressed up the first day because Eureka required a little time to understand it's mechanics.


So, hating Eureka is just a meme. Stand up and improve :3

[KyokuhoKensaki]

Now that we learned more about Eureka, we know that:

People wanted to farm the relic with repetitive stuff such as FATE grind, dungeon grind, primals grind etc... I find Eureka more entertaining, since it let's you choose how you want to level up. And as you level up, things gets a lot easier and the farm becomes faster exponentially.

We're too used to have things NOW and FAST. People stressed up the first day because Eureka required a little time to understand it's mechanics.


So, hating Eureka is just a meme. Stand up and improve :3

Uh...sorry but no. It's not a meme to hate it. People hate it because it's dull, not very fun to do, and overall monotonous. There's actual reasons people dislike it and not just because "Ugh we have to put WORK INTO THIS?"

If I have to put genuine work into something, I'd like it to be fun.

[BroodingFicus]

unless SE makes leveling much easier in the future it feels like if you don't Eureka now you'll probably never gonna do it. once most ppl hit 20 they will probably only farm the highest level NMs and everything below might become dead.

as with all relic quests you can expect nerfs at one point though.

to me eureka still doesn't feel right even though i grinded brayflox hard for the first relic. i guess grind can take many shapes and formes and not all can be enjoyable.

This is what I foresee as well. Heck I got on tonight to try it out and no parties would even take anyone below level 5 already. The ones in party finder all said 5+ or 7+ farming party and once I got into Eureka and put in shout to try to join up with an existing one, no one answered and I eventually gave up. So already it sorta feels like 'sorry you didn't have the time to zerg the new content but now you're on your own'. Which as a WHM I can tell you is nearly impossible. It takes 40-50 secs per mob and thanks to our boring dps rotation, its just spamming one stone spell until your finger starts to cramp. I tried to join in on some NM but most of them were too high level and I'd find myself randomly dead to god knows what if I even managed to make it there without dying to a level seven or eight mob. The few I did participate in from start to finish, I got bronze or silver. I've yet to see any crystals or chests. Wasn't part of the selling point here that you could solo the content? It feels like they added the ability to do so but made the content completely hostile to it. There isn't even any point in helping anyone I see who isn't in my party with heals etc because you get almost nothing for assisting them (as I quickly discovered).

I feel like I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I could roam around and actively help others and cooperate without this whole idea of sitting around trying to beg my low level tail into a group so that I have some chance of reaching a level where other people will acknowledge my existance before party finger becomes all '+10 farming only' etc. That's keeping in mind this is day two and its likely to get worse.

Overall it just feels like even if I could find a group of people to go into the content with, it would /still/ be dull and monotonous, just slightly more fruitful than what I tried to do. It really makes me wonder why this took so long to release and if it was really worth all that time and the resources taken from elsewhere. I actually really hope they don't die the relic to this and that progression line is something separate because a few weeks from now, you'll see this place start to die fast. Also, Square, just because people wanted it to be solo equipped as well, why is it there couldn't be an option to be put in to a queue for a party? Some sort of status I could flag that would group me up with other people who turn on said flag automatically? Something.