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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Nothing compared to ff11, in ff11 stuff was useful, Eureka's stuff is already obsolete so what is the point to farm for "nothing"
    people keep saying this, but its only half true. Eventually, if past evidence is anything to go by, the long term project will be well worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    people keep saying this, but its only half true. Eventually, if past evidence is anything to go by, the long term project will be well worth it.
    Huh. I've never considered any of the relics to be worth it. If you aren't doing it for glamour, it's just a waste of time. They become obsolete way too fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Huh. I've never considered any of the relics to be worth it. If you aren't doing it for glamour, it's just a waste of time. They become obsolete way too fast.
    In HW, the last step of the relic weapon was the best IIRC.

    In the beginning stages of the Game, the i90 weapon relic weapon and the twintania drop were the same until the twintania weapon was patched to i95.

    Beyond that, they were always just under the raid weapon. Not everyone is going to be able to get the clears to get a top raid tier weapon and/or dont like to raid. so this is a great alternative/placeholder for the best.

    The one sticking point to me is what does it add to you the player besides better stats after all the grind? Same can be said about the raid weapons. yes u get better main stat and more desired stats on the best weapons... but it all just seams like if its gunna be straight ilevel tiers (as it always has been) this is a viable alternative in the long run
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    Vayne Kaonis
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    O wow seems you already got the +2 weapons and such , can you please share what you found out are the stats of those menus that we all can't access yet? Being you obiously cleared content of eureka reached lvl 20 and got at least one job +2 and above right? Oh wait or do you mean you only looked at current menus and not the ones that need the +2 in order to access?.
    Its called datamining. All the stats, models, and ilvls were known within hours of being able to download the patch. The +2 weapon only gets to 355, so people buying the 360 weapons this week already have a better weapon for a fraction of the time spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    Beyond that, they were always just under the raid weapon. Not everyone is going to be able to get the clears to get a top raid tier weapon and/or dont like to raid. so this is a great alternative/placeholder for the best.
    Yes, but if you don't raid, you also don't need the weapon. So there's still no real worth there. But whatever floats your boat.
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Huh. I've never considered any of the relics to be worth it. If you aren't doing it for glamour, it's just a waste of time. They become obsolete way too fast.
    Kind of why I think Eureka is mainly made for people who want to get relic related items. We who do relics understand it a bit more it seems and while yes they do become obsolete at a faster pace, I wonder why people still complain it's too hard when they apperently are not worth getting? Could it be we see something you don't consider? yes.
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    Masahiro Kido
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    You are...actually...comparing...Dynamis...with this trash?

    -_____- *facepalms*
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Yes, but if you don't raid, you also don't need the weapon. So there's still no real worth there. But whatever floats your boat.
    no, you dont NEED the weapon... but it doesnt change its usefulness as a better weapon (and maybe) a better shiny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
    Its called datamining. All the stats, models, and ilvls were known within hours of being able to download the patch. The +2 weapon only gets to 355, so people buying the 360 weapons this week already have a better weapon for a fraction of the time spent.
    So the answer is no, they may head in that direction, maybe based on gear paired with weapon will have hidden stats, or raise ilvl above what is offered being it's such a grind? Maybe they finally listened and want to give relics the proper place as the most powerful weapon in the game or above par with endgame raids? Who knows? only one way to find out right? " Look forward to it" Judging it as a day one thing with out actually maxing it out is more of an ignorant answer. While it may have a negative perspective for most who are use to easy things we really can't judge until we have seen it maxed out right? Guess it's up to the player to brush it off and see or give up without really starting.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 03-15-2018 at 02:17 AM.

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    Squintina Nightgard
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    I think I've seen more people compare this to Abyssea than Dynamis.
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