First impressions of Eureka (FFXI player)

[Stanelis]

Zenith, Atma, Animus, Novus, etc...were all reskinned of the basic relic, but at the end, you gained a very unique (and arguably beautiful) skin for your weapon. The first stages of Anima were also reskinned of the tome weapon, but then, it changed drastically...to end on something a little meh for me, but still unique.
There's no reason to assume the Eureka weapon will kee the same skin for the next stages.

Sure the skin of the future gear may be different but it doesn't change the fact that you currently need to spend an insane amount of time grinding to obtain something that is no different than what you can obtain elsewhere and more easily. The old relics were criticized for that fact as well. And I'm not only talking about skins here but also about the entertainment factor of getting the new item. As it stand, it is simply dull and boring, and people are generally tired of that.

I'd say 2.0. But the backlash on Titan was so hard that they toned down everything after that.

I don't think you understood my post.

They would only be mandatory if you want the absolute perfect character, for which the raid/relic weapons are already "mandatory". However, if Berserk was only changed to auto-crit and the auto-DH was put on the WAR new relic, every WAR would have gladly rushed to Eureka...

And how would that be an issue ? As you said yourself " that way, if you want the truly best gear, you have to do every content and not only raiding." A new player would only have to prioritize and there could be ways to ensure anyone willing can obtain the items. Plus it is not your job nor mine to come up with potential effects on gear.

Just imagine the tears if you got a new WS in FFXIV based on your relic (they totally should do this). and while they are at it, they need to ENSURE that the end stages of the relic weapon ARE the best (or slightly second best)

I actually think there would be far less complaining, because that way you'd know you'd be grinding for a reason. It could also just change the skin of your spells/WS like the legendary weapons in GW2. Here again they don't even do that because SE doesn't seem to want putting a lot of money in FFXIV (it is far more profitable to design cosmetic items to sell in the cash shop).

As an example I grinded for the first relic back in ARR, because I believed the last step would have something special. That wasn't the case so I didn't grind in HW. Also, they don't need to make the weapon the "best" just to try to find a way to make these item exciting, the way they were in FFXI. Nobody complained about the gear in FFXI. Arguably how the gear was designed was probably one of the best success of FFXI, one SE didn't try to capitalize on.