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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    It truly is Diadem though. I am however giving it a bit of time to see if it gets more interesting, but it is truly at its core Diadem.
    It's really not. But suit yourself.


    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    That said, the potential argument holds no merit. That was used to excuse Diadem both times ("it's the foundation for something better they can build off of!") which led us to Eureka being only slightly less bland than Diadem. They've had three tries to get this right and not make it a boring slog.
    And each and every time all the general forums did was complain and whine, instead of offering actual feedback and suggestions; well, that's at least true for 90%+. I'm not trying to excuse the devs taking such a long time to release content like that, I'm just saying that each time it happens, we as the community can at least try to help it improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeoncs View Post
    It's really not. But suit yourself.
    Diadem was sit in one spot and kill mobs over and over until an NM popped, then you killed that. Please explain how Eureka is not Diadem. At their core, they are both identical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeoncs View Post
    And each and every time all the general forums did was complain and whine, instead of offering actual feedback and suggestions; well, that's at least true for 90%+. I'm not trying to excuse the devs taking such a long time to release content like that, I'm just saying that each time it happens, we as the community can at least try to help it improve.
    They've gotten enough feedback from the community for ideas of how to improve. They've had the structured endgame content of XI to look at to see how this stuff is supposed to work; instead, they walled anything interesting in Diadem 3.0 behind the most uninteresting of aspect of XI: Valkurm Dunes-style exp parties. And, moreover, even "complaining and whining" is still useful given it communicates to the devs that the community doesn't like what they keep on trying to do. Lastly, the most commonly raised advice was to stop trying to continue the Diadem model and make sure Eureka isn't another Diadem. Eureka shares more with Diadem than you'd like to believe or admit, and it's no small wonder why it's being so poorly received given no one liked Diadem either.
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