Level 50+ dungeons can be challenging

[alimdia]

What games are you comparing XIV to here? It's pretty hard to die in level 50+ dungeons, and even if you do the chance of wiping is very low, healers can just raise you and there's no exp penalty or anything. I don't think I'd ever consider calling level 50 dungeons challenging just because you have to learn some basic mechs that most of the time don't kill you.

[Lium]

What games are you comparing XIV to here? It's pretty hard to die in level 50+ dungeons, and even if you do the chance of wiping is very low, healers can just raise you and there's no exp penalty or anything. I don't think I'd ever consider calling level 50 dungeons challenging just because you have to learn some basic mechs that most of the time don't kill you.

Games like WoW and SWTOR where you can honestly solo the dungeons. In WoW you can be half AFK and just follow the tank. Not kidding.

[Joe777]

Games like WoW and SWTOR where you can honestly solo the dungeons. In WoW you can be half AFK and just follow the tank. Not kidding.

Scholars can do that in low level dungeons since the fairy will heal the Tank. Also running a dungeon of a certain level or so undersized with a high item level makes it soloable.

[Squintina]

Scholars can do that in low level dungeons since the fairy will heal the Tank. Also running a dungeon of a certain level or so undersized with a high item level makes it soloable.

Scholars that are overgeared (*cough* a 60+ scholar being put into a level 30 dungeon by roulette) can do that because the lack of ilvl sync will make their gear OP.

A lot of people forget what it was like when healing AT the level, especially if other people in the party were also AT the level.

Some of these dungeons, not all but some, are actually a bit tough when a person first gets to them in their level-appropriate (or worse, underleveled!) gear.

[Joe777]

Scholars that are overgeared (*cough* a 60+ scholar being put into a level 30 dungeon by roulette) can do that because the lack of ilvl sync will make their gear OP.

A lot of people forget what it was like when healing AT the level, especially if other people in the party were also AT the level.

Some of these dungeons, not all but some, are actually a bit tough when a person first gets to them in their level-appropriate (or worse, underleveled!) gear.

Indeed breezing any dungeon would usually require gear be up to speed or above. A Scholar that can afk heal Copperbell for example would be a Scholar with gear at least above Lv20 or so.

[Squintina]

Indeed breezing any dungeon would usually require gear be up to speed or above. A Scholar that can afk heal Copperbell for example would be a Scholar with gear at least above Lv20 or so.

Now you're just being ridiculous.
Don't even bother replying to me.

[Joe777]

Now you're just being ridiculous.
Don't even bother replying to me.

What is ridiculous about what I said? Sure the low level dungeons, even undergeared a bit, are not too difficult, but any high level Scholar in them could easily afk heal by following the Tank. As for like Lv70 dungeons yeah they're not difficult, but going in undergeared would certainly require effort to compensate for the disadvantage, thus not making it a "breeze" to clear. It's as simple as that.

[Remedi]

Scholars can do that in low level dungeons since the fairy will heal the Tank. Also running a dungeon of a certain level or so undersized with a high item level makes it soloable.

to be fair he was talking about level cap dungeons