Level 50+ dungeons can be challenging

[Lium]

Speaking from experience, I find the dungeons here are not necessarily hard, but not really easy either. You have to know the fights and pay attention to boss mechanics.
It's quite different from other MMOs, where as a DPS, I just follow the tank, kill mobs and not stand in any bad stuff.

Here, it's like, "Kill the adds quick!", or "Don't kill the adds.", or "Draw the adds to the boss." or "Kill the bird for the shield but don't click the shield too early." or "Stand in the circles when they light up all around the room. Quickly!" Do all of the above while dodging AOE and various bad stuff on the ground. Messing up on anything at all will kill you instantly. (That's not an exaggeration.)

I often wonder if veterans of this game realize that not many MMOs in the West are made like FFXIV anymore. And that's a good thing! But it probably accounts for some of the bad play you might be seeing.

Just food for thought. :-)

[Remedi]

well putting regen while the tank is gathering mobs is a Wow induced thing for sure imho

[alimdia]

What games are you comparing XIV to here? It's pretty hard to die in level 50+ dungeons, and even if you do the chance of wiping is very low, healers can just raise you and there's no exp penalty or anything. I don't think I'd ever consider calling level 50 dungeons challenging just because you have to learn some basic mechs that most of the time don't kill you.

[Lium]

What games are you comparing XIV to here? It's pretty hard to die in level 50+ dungeons, and even if you do the chance of wiping is very low, healers can just raise you and there's no exp penalty or anything. I don't think I'd ever consider calling level 50 dungeons challenging just because you have to learn some basic mechs that most of the time don't kill you.

Games like WoW and SWTOR where you can honestly solo the dungeons. In WoW you can be half AFK and just follow the tank. Not kidding.

[Joe777]

Games like WoW and SWTOR where you can honestly solo the dungeons. In WoW you can be half AFK and just follow the tank. Not kidding.

Scholars can do that in low level dungeons since the fairy will heal the Tank. Also running a dungeon of a certain level or so undersized with a high item level makes it soloable.

[Squintina]

Scholars can do that in low level dungeons since the fairy will heal the Tank. Also running a dungeon of a certain level or so undersized with a high item level makes it soloable.

Scholars that are overgeared (*cough* a 60+ scholar being put into a level 30 dungeon by roulette) can do that because the lack of ilvl sync will make their gear OP.

A lot of people forget what it was like when healing AT the level, especially if other people in the party were also AT the level.

Some of these dungeons, not all but some, are actually a bit tough when a person first gets to them in their level-appropriate (or worse, underleveled!) gear.

[Joe777]

Scholars that are overgeared (*cough* a 60+ scholar being put into a level 30 dungeon by roulette) can do that because the lack of ilvl sync will make their gear OP.

A lot of people forget what it was like when healing AT the level, especially if other people in the party were also AT the level.

Some of these dungeons, not all but some, are actually a bit tough when a person first gets to them in their level-appropriate (or worse, underleveled!) gear.

Indeed breezing any dungeon would usually require gear be up to speed or above. A Scholar that can afk heal Copperbell for example would be a Scholar with gear at least above Lv20 or so.

[Squintina]

Indeed breezing any dungeon would usually require gear be up to speed or above. A Scholar that can afk heal Copperbell for example would be a Scholar with gear at least above Lv20 or so.

Now you're just being ridiculous.
Don't even bother replying to me.

[Remedi]

Scholars can do that in low level dungeons since the fairy will heal the Tank. Also running a dungeon of a certain level or so undersized with a high item level makes it soloable.

to be fair he was talking about level cap dungeons

[Joe777]

Now you're just being ridiculous.
Don't even bother replying to me.

What is ridiculous about what I said? Sure the low level dungeons, even undergeared a bit, are not too difficult, but any high level Scholar in them could easily afk heal by following the Tank. As for like Lv70 dungeons yeah they're not difficult, but going in undergeared would certainly require effort to compensate for the disadvantage, thus not making it a "breeze" to clear. It's as simple as that.