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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    I don't think every AOE rotation can be learnt that easily, not in a dungeon run. It's not just pressing the right buttons, it's pressing them in the right order, having them binded, some aoe rotations can be unforgiving if you mess up.
    If someone isn't AoEing at all, using an AoE is an upgrade. That can be explained. The full on optimal rotation for every job can't, but that isn't the goal. Much like I can't condense how to play a savage PLD into chat (especially since I don't know), but I can tell someone who is losing aggro how to hold it in levelling.

    The goal isn't to turn someone into an expert in 5 minutes. It's to take someone who is having trouble with something and help improve it. That can absolutely be done in chat, from first hand experience on both ends of it. Doesn't always work, but sometimes it does, and that success rate is far better than throwing your hands up and declaring it's hopeless so why bother trying.

    You entirely put the blame on the player, and if things don't go the way you like, you automatically assume they are not listening to you and proceed to kick them.
    Would you quit making stuff up? It's pretty old. I can count the number of vote kicks I've initiated on one hand, and zero of them were for this. If they don't take my advice and we're still getting our clear, than so be it. That's my attitude. It's rather tiresome to have you taking someone else and imposing it on me so you have a strawman to argue against.
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    Discord: Tridus#2642

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    Gallus's Avatar
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    Vermilion Rose
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    The goal isn't to turn someone into an expert in 5 minutes. It's to take someone who is having trouble with something and help improve it. That can absolutely be done in chat, from first hand experience on both ends of it. Doesn't always work, but sometimes it does, and that success rate is far better than throwing your hands up and declaring it's hopeless so why bother trying.
    Personally, I don't offer advice to anyone unless they explicitly ask for it or unless someone is blatantly wiping the party with a very specific mechanic. Calling out someone in a group automatically means you are telling them they are doing something wrong, and not everybody takes that well (especially because when that happens you automatically are setting the focus on them, and understandably, some people feel uncomfortable with that). More often than not you'll be meeting with a bitter response or an unpleasant silence, but let's not pretend this is exclusive to FFXIV... this literally happens in every online community and even in real life in general. If you are telling me you can deal with that and that you rarely kick anyone and rather finish the dungeon and move on, then I don't see a problem here because this is as much of a big deal to me than it is for you.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 03-07-2018 at 01:11 AM.